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Re: What's the deal with Ken Roberts?



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Michael Ferguson wrote:
> 
> Well, that's my 2/32, I'll just push return and visit the fire
> extinguisher for a mug up.
> 
> Inflammably,
> Michael

Michael,

I don't disagree with the technical fundamentals that Roberts mentions.

I do have a problem with how he presents it. :)

1. Nowhere in his literature does Roberts ever mention money management.

To adequately trade these strategies would require an account of 
$100,000 dollars or more, in order to survive the max drawdowns
(Remember, you'd be trading a portfolio of markets here.).

Trading this methodology with a $5000.00 account is suicide (IMHO).

Mr. Roberts also speaks in glowing terms of inverted pyramid trading.
Think about that for a second.

I respect your opinion. It is well thought and well put. However, the
question I would ask is, do you feel this knowledge is worth $299 ?

Are there not many books on technical analysis AND money management
that address these techniques for a fraction of what Mr. Roberts
charges ?

A far better bargain would be Curtis Arnold's PPS trading book, which
addresses these issues in a much more realistic fashion. ($45.00 )
Arnold backs up his claims with statistical testing, good money
management, and the technique is still simple and very tradable.

Allow me to mention an interesting item here:

I used to spend time on the FUTRES MAG commodity chat forum. They have
a Ken Roberts trading area. In response to a post in which I voiced
some of my doubts about the veracity of Mr. Robert's generalities,
a trader on that forum told me how utterely WRONG I was, and that 
he currently held a position in the Gold market in which he carried
a $15,000 dollar profit. ($5000 initial account)

This trader had multiplied his long futures gains by inverted
pyramiding. He held multiple contracts. He told me he would be moving
his stops up closer in a week or so.

One day later, Gold had the biggest one day drop it had experienced
in five years, followed by 2 more days of savage decline, before Gold
found support.

I never heard from that trader again.

That's a true story Mike. I just don't think Ken adequately prepares
his students. 

Walt :)