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Re: $ 227000 PROFIT / 1 CONTRACT OF SP'S IN LAST 11 MONTHS


  • To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: $ 227000 PROFIT / 1 CONTRACT OF SP'S IN LAST 11 MONTHS
  • From: rjb@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:30:48 -0800 (PST)

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Good thoughts...

Also, can one really trade 5 minute bars? The losing trades here are only
5-6 bars (25-30 minutes) in length. A couple of slipups in a 35% winning
system can kill it. And why are we trading SPZ7 all the way back to 1996?




>Glenda , some general comments.  Every heard of the term islands, and
>continents??  If not I would pick up  some books by Kaufman.  Second are
>the costs included in the net profit.  Third are you a trader that can
>stand losing alot and winning big amounts on a couple of trades.  Very hard
>on the mind.
>
>My personal thoughts -- I would not touch this system.
>
>Mark.
>
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>> From: Glendajyce@xxxxxxx
>> To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: $ 227000 PROFIT / 1 CONTRACT OF SP'S IN LAST 11 MONTHS
>> Date: Tuesday, December 02, 1997 10:44 PM
>>
>> Below are the TradeStation summaries for an SP system that trades 5min
>> intervals
>> and exits MOC. There are no settings under STOPS for this system. All
>action
>> is
>> self contained in the code, with no assumptions being made by TS. This
>system
>> is
>> being traded at the moment by a private trader, and he agreed  to provide
>a
>> demo to
>> me. That's all I can say!  My problem is, I would like an evaluation by a
>few
>> of you
>> astute realtraders about this demo. Email me, and I will upload a copy of
>the
>> TS ela
>> demo to for evaluation. All I ask is your frank appraisal.
>>
>>                                                       Happy Holidays,
>>
>>                                                              Glenda Joyce
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>            SP7Z-5 min   12/29/96 - 05/30/97
>>
>>       Performance Summary:  All Trades
>>
>> Total net profit      $ 107785.00     Open position P/L       $      0.00
>> Gross profit          $ 355120.00     Gross loss              $-247335.00
>>
>> Total # of trades          623        Percent profitable            36%
>> Number winning trades      226        Number losing trades         397
>>
>> Largest winning trade $   9880.00     Largest losing trade    $  -1790.00
>> Average winning trade $   1571.33     Average losing trade    $   -623.01
>> Ratio avg win/avg loss               2.52     Avg trade(win & loss)   $
>>173.01
>>
>> Max consec. winners          5        Max consec. losers            11
>> Avg # bars in winners       16        Avg # bars in losers           6
>>
>> Max intraday drawdown $ -15945.00
>> Profit factor                1.44     Max # contracts held           1
>> Account size required $  15945.00     Return on account            676%
>>
>>                SP7Z-5 min   06/03/97 - 12/01/97
>>
>>       Performance Summary:  All Trades
>>
>> Total net profit      $ 120125.00     Open position P/L       $      0.00
>> Gross profit          $ 424515.00     Gross loss              $-304390.00
>>
>> Total # of trades          740        Percent profitable            37%
>> Number winning trades      275        Number losing trades         465
>>
>> Largest winning trade $   9775.00     Largest losing trade    $  -2025.00
>> Average winning trade $   1543.69     Average losing trade    $   -654.60
>> Ratio avg win/avg loss               2.36     Avg trade(win & loss)   $
>>162.33
>>
>> Max consec. winners          5        Max consec. losers             9
>> Avg # bars in winners       14        Avg # bars in losers           5
>>
>> Max intraday drawdown $ -13035.00
>> Profit factor                1.39     Max # contracts held           1
>> Account size required $  13035.00     Return on account            922%
>>