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Is Esignal the only serious data option for Multicharts?
Does it bother anyone that TS has broken off its relationship with RJ
O'Brien?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abhijit Dey [mailto:omegalist@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:44 PM
> To: Omega-List
> Subject: Re: TS2000i to IB - what is good these days?
>
> Jimmy,
>
> To each his own, and it is great we have choices. I suppose people's
> trading evolves differently, and I personally have become less and less
> dependent on indicator's and such. Sure, TS, and specifically EL has
> many shortcomings and I have no clue why those has not been addressed.
> It has just not bothered me enough to look for alternatives.
>
> And, I am cheap. Not going the eSignal route saves me $1000+ per year in
> fees that I would rather not spend. TS provides that for free, as far as
> I am concerned. I do not trade anything outside US exchanges, so that is
> not an issue either, in terms of data availability. And I do not want to
> pay for MultiCharts either :)
>
> All I am saying is TS, at this time, satisfies my particular needs. I am
> sure it is not the answer for everyone's needs. Few traders I personally
> communicate with directly and through various boards seem to fall into
> my category in terms of their data and execution needs. So I thought I
> would mention it in case it fits Alex's needs. I have no connection to
> any brokerage or data vendor. Also, I am not saying all is well in TS
> land. I always keep IB up and use their bid/ask as authoritative during
> fast markets. Right after news releases, TS data lags quite often. I
> have to keep an eye on it. Am I happy about it? Absolutely not - it's a
> PITA and I am sure a deal breaker for many. Just that I heard the same
> complaint from eSignal users too. So...
>
> Abhijit
>
>
> On 12/6/2009 9:23 PM, Jimmy Snowden wrote:
>> Abbijit,
>>
>> I lost more data with TS4 due to Omega then TS2ki due to all kinds of
>> software problems. I spent a huge amount of time backing up and
>> learning how to fix data. I was afraid with Multicharts it would be
>> the same. I switched due to features and because it was so easy if
>> you had been running TS2ki. Data is no longer a problem for me.
>>
>> At first I used the global server to feed Multicharts. Soon I decided
>> I was crazy to use it. After all half my problem was with the GS. So
>> I just imported a load of ASCII data for my tick charts and now only
>> use Multicharts with a part of esignal that is really esignal and the
>> old QCharts. Exactly the same as regular Esisnal but had more
>> historical tick data. About two to three months. Don't know why it
>> varies. But then minute and daily is huge historical data. I have
>> not researched how much but years. So if I loose all my data or want
>> to add a symbol it is easy. Just type the symbol in a chart and bingo
>> here it comes. So if you can live with Esignal life is much easier.
>> I don't spend Saturdays loading and saving. I run all week then
>> Friday after noon I turn it off and back it up. Research stocks
>> Saturday morning and pull up about 175 charts plus any new ones that
>> look good. In no time I have my list for the week. It is a dream.
>> You can rent it or buy it. I bought it first day I heard about how
>> good it was.
>>
>> Remember the plot limit on TS2ki. Four plots. Recently I worked on a
>> indicator that I have always wanted to build. I had seventy plots.
>> Not that I wasnted to see them but it gave me the numbers in the data
>> window to check all my code right there on the screen. It will
>> actually plot like 99 or 100 plots.
>>
>> I am not connected with Multicharts or TSSupport. It just answers all
>> my needs without the pain. Plus the more that use it the more people
>> I can learn from. There are some really smart people on this list and
>> it has helped me a lot.
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>> Alex,
>>
>> I have a license of MetaServer for IB, and it does what it is supposed
>> to. I have not used it in over a year. I got myself a TS subscription,
>> and for the price of monthly exchange data fee, and a very reasonably
>> priced 10 r/t a month, I have the whole thing for free. Yes, you need to
>> keep 5-10k in TS account, but the commission can actually be cheaper
>> than IB.
>>
>> I really, really like the concept of having my own copy of data, and
>> ts2ki. I love ts2ki! But in practice, I have found it to be much more
>> profitable, easy, and relaxing to have on-demand data on anything I
>> like. I still have recurring fantasy trips of going back to ts2ki +
>> MetaServer, but I usually soon come back to my senses. Actually, for
>> this very reason I have never paid much attention to MultiCharts, in
>> spite of such glowing reviews from venerable list members, because then
>> I have to manage data! Yikes!
>>
>> My 2 cents. But, if you must, MetaServer works just fine - just run it
>> in a clean machine with not much else running - specially anything that
>> likes to open or listen to tcp-ip sockets. Also, TradeBullet seems to
>> just do order routing to IB, but not act as a data feed from IB.
>>
>> Abhijit
>>
>>
>> On 12/6/2009 6:29 PM, alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> Thanks. Sorry I didn't make it clear in my post, but I need
>>> TradeStation access to Interactive Brokers for intraday data, not EOD
>>> data. For EOD, I use Pinnacle.
>>>
>>> Years ago I used the MetaServer demo to work with intraday ES, but
>>> that was 1 computer and 3 operating systems ago. Just wondered if
>>> there was anything new besides TradeBullet (which isn't practical due
>>> to requiring a subscription). Free or one-time cost is what I'm after.
>>>
>>> I noticed something odd. I can hook up NinjaTrader to Interactive
>>> Brokers easily, and it somehow manages to retrieve a history! I didn't
>>> even know IB maintained any history. Can MetaServer enable
>>> TradeStation to do that, these days?
>>>
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Rod Wheeler wrote:
>>>> I have used MetaServer RT for IB for years. It is rock solid. When
>>>> I needed it, as in switching computers, support was immediate and
>>>> professional.
>>>>
>>>> MetaServer RT offers nothing but value IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> I can't speak to the EOD thing as I trade interday.
>>>>
>>>> No affiliation, blah, blah. Your milage may vary.
>>>>
>>>> Rod
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:57 PM
>>>> Subject: TS2000i to IB - what is good these days?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I mostly do work with EOD methods so I don't need to hook up
>>>>> TradeStation 2000i to a data feed.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if I need to get a feed from Interactive Brokers, what's
>>>>> the favored way people on this list like to use?
>>>>>
>>>>> Metaserver RT still has a demo version that lets you work with 2
>>>>> symbols.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's also this thing called TradeBullet, but it requires a
>>>>> monthly subscription. Forget it. I need this capability only
>>>>> occasionally, so it isn't worth paying a subscription.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought there was another one around for free, but I can't
>>>>> remember the name.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>
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