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Hi Alex,
isn't it strange how we are now speaking of Java code as "legacy code", when
only a brief 6 years ago Java was still considered a grassroots movement?
But I do agree with your analysis. In fact, as a former computer scientist
turned trader I have lived through the COBOL-C-C++ transitions just as you
describe them. (I even know COBOL which makes me feel like I'm 100 years
old). I made the move from Java to Python about two years ago, and
immediately fell in love with that powerful, terse, yet easy to use,
language. There is no doubt in my mind that programmers around the world
will soon see the benefits.
Best regards,
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Matulich" <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 20:43
Subject: Re: Uptick: Tick-based futures trading engine .NET or Java
> Michael,
>
> >A jobsearch on monster.com today yielded the following numbers of job
> >openings:
> >
> >Java "more than 5000" (est. >8000)
> >C++ 4165
> >.NET 2911 (including C#)
> >C# 1624 (C# only)
> >Perl 2572
> >Python 201
> >
> >Not having any large commercial backers, Python is still a bit on the
> >sidelines, just like Perl was about 10 years ago, even though in many
ways
> >Python is the most modern of the pack. As of now, Java is king.
>
> And it will probably remain so for a while. What you see above
> reflects widespread corporate need to support legacy software. It
> doesn't reflect what programmers actually are using these days to
> develop new products from the ground up.
>
> In the 1980s, when everybody was DEVELOPING new software in C, and
> later C++, the job ads were 99% requests for COBOL programmers,
> because nearly all businesses had huge investments in their legacy
> COBOL-based software. Now you can hardly find anyone who knows
> COBOL anymore, let alone a a company that still uses it. I doubt
> it's even taugt anymore at any university.
>
> However, I have heard rumors that Java programmers are migrating
> in droves to Python, using it instead of Java when there is an
> opportunity to do so. I would venture a guess that there's a huge
> amount of DEVELOPMENT of new software going on in Python, but the
> job ads are still asking for Java and C++. Just like in the 1980s
> when job ads wanted COBOL but everyone was doing new stuff in C.
>
> >Remember that when you are developing in Java, Perl, or Python, you
> >are in fact developing for Windows, too (plus practically every
> >other OS on the face of the planet).
>
> That's the best reason to use any of those. A trading platform
> written in Java or Python could run on a supercomputer, for example,
> (and no supercomputer uses anything made by Microsoft). Or it could
> run on an efficient (and secure) unix-based server that integrates
> server functions (data feeds) with trading software. Or it could
> run on a Mac as well as a Windows PC. Get away from Windows-centric
> development and the possibilities are endless.
>
> -A
>
>
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