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RE: Market Timing Hoaxes, Myths, and Scams



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Adrian, once again, you descended into a personal attack and dodged the
direct question. I honestly do not know a single reputable system (not
indicator, not coding help, but SYSTEM) vendor. If you can name one, I'm
all ears.

-- 
  Dennis

I've just had mine cleaned out (ears that is) and I'm listening
intently:)

Here is an idea that's always intrigued me:

Why not put this matter to rest by having a "real-money" SYSTEMS vs
DISCRETIONARY TRADING competition? Ron, brokers, website owners...an
idea for you to drum more business perhaps? I realise that Robbins
Trading has an ongoing competition but this one should be different...I
envisage it to be a Trader vs Vendor type duel!

Some suggested Terms for the competition:

1. Systems are defined as comprising of 100% mechanical triggered
signals but 
   may be placed manually or automatically.
2. Discretionary traders may use anything under the sun (including the
sun)
   except for a mechanical system as defined in 1 above.
3. Suggested starting account of say, $20k for each participant and
restricted  
   to the S&P E-mini only (this is so Ron's hypothesis may be
addressed)and 
   competition should run for a min period of one contract
cycle/quarter.
4. All participants could perhaps submit a weekly verifiable statement 
   of their trades to the organiser etc.....
5. Prize would be free publicity and a holiday in New Zealand sponsored
by the 
   organiser and/or paid for by the losers taken as a group and costs 
   apportioned accordingly:) 

AG