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RE: e-mini day trading systems



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Ron,

If your not really looking for 'anything' then why do you write so many
posts here making it blatantly clear what your looking for??  Most
people on this list are serious and are looking to genuinely improve
their knowledge...they seek help or guidance with coding
issues......they provide new ideas....or discuss constructive topics to
help further our understanding. As you qualitfy under none of these it
is merely causing unecessary disruption and clogging up our email and
taking away peoples' valuable time. People here I would suggest aren't
interested in what your trying to prove...mainly because we all know it
simply isn't true...So I once again stronlgy suggest you either move
back to chat sites to sell your softweare on the sly or move to another
field of endenvour entirely as has been suggested by others as well as
me. 

Adrian 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Hudson [mailto:ron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2004 6:09 PM
> To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: e-mini day trading systems
> 
> 
> Thank you Ivo. I'm not really "looking" for anything. I just 
> enjoy discussing this and pontificating my opinions. Thank 
> you for acknowledging and validating them. Your feedback is 
> much appreciated.
> 
> As far as trading success and diversification, I agree 
> entirely. I have about 20% of my assets in a variety of hedge 
> funds, and that's how I diversify. I have a foreign stocks 
> fund, an S&P credit spreads fund, and a "fund of funds" fund. 
> The bulk of my money is in cash, real estate, and small 
> businesses that I operate. I'm always looking for more ways 
> to diversify, and I'm always interested in hearing new ideas.
> 
> My involvement with e-mini futures trading is purely a 
> speculative game for fun. I know that there are people who do 
> it seriously and professionally (not with systems), but I'm 
> not one of them. I've tried it, I know what it's about, and I 
> know it's not for me. I still enjoy watching the markets, 
> paper-trading, trading my system with my small account, and 
> talking with other traders about technical trading. I have no 
> expectation or intention of becoming a professional trader. I 
> have other business and career interests that are more 
> rewarding for me.
> 
> Thanks again for your friendly advise and suggestions.
> 
> 
> Ron Hudson
> Tradestation 7 Easylanguage Specialist
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ivo Karindi [mailto:ivo@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:45 PM
> > To: Ron Hudson
> > Cc: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: FW: e-mini day trading systems
> >
> >
> > RH> Have you ever seen someone succeed over a period of 
> years, using 
> > RH> 100% mechanical systems on eminis, THAT WERE COMMERCIALLY
> > AVAILABLE. Have you
> > RH> ever seen someone make money consistently using emini day
> > trading systems
> > RH> from your site?
> >
> > Hey Ron, this has been discussed in this thread already I think 
> > several times: why are you so married to e-minis? ANY single market 
> > you choose will have it's good days and it's bad days. Any 
> system you 
> > choose will have its good days and bad days. And this applies to 
> > discretionary traders as well. The only foolproof way to make money 
> > more or less constantly is to DIVERSIFY. And even then 
> there will be 
> > good days and bad days. Nothing new, but somehow I get the feeling 
> > that you are not taking this seriously because you still 
> keep talking 
> > about e-minis only. If you are looking for an e-mini system that is 
> > making continuous profits without any drawdowns, then I bet you are 
> > not going to find this. If you are trying to prove that no-one ever 
> > makes any profits trading e-minis mechanically, then I bet 
> you are not 
> > going to find that either. So what is it that you are looking for 
> > because obviously you are looking for some answers? A successful 
> > mechanical trading system? Well, my first suggestion would be to 
> > DIVERSIFY. Diversify into different markets, different systems, 
> > different timeframes. Don't expect a ruler-straight equity 
> curve from 
> > any of the markets or systems; you can get closer to that 
> goal through 
> > diversification.
> >
> > For some reason I'm getting the feeling that you are a very slow 
> > learner. 8 years of TS programming should result in more 
> than trying 
> > to prove your hypothesis or still trying to find a systems 
> vendor... 
> > In this case I'd suggest something completely different: yoga, 
> > meditation, taking time off for yourself, travelling to remote 
> > destinations.  You need to break out of the box that you have built 
> > around yourself.
> >
> > Ivo Karindi
> >
> >
>