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RE: Helix



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Hi all,

I have to agree with Jimmy that those returns are not impressive at all.
An 11.75% drawdown to make 4.5% over 2 weeks sounds like a way to go
bankrupt. Ron, I also have to agree that it is in poor taste that you
question the viability of these types of systems when you sell one.


Gabriel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jimmy Snowden [mailto:jhsnowden@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 2:19 PM
To: Omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx; Ron Hudson
Subject: Re: Helix


Ron,

Are you saying the returns below are very impressive?  If so you need to
add a zero on the end of the Cumulative results and move the decimal
point over one slot to the right.  Then they are very impressive as long
as the rest of the information about the system is ok.  I accidentally
went to you site looking for what you thought was very impressive.  Does
it hurt to talk out of both sides of your mouth?  Get honest and then
get with it.  In that order.  Quit fishing on the list.  This list is
about using trading programs and helping others with system work.  Spit
out what you want.  Then we can really flame you.

Best regards,
  Jimmy Snowden
mailto:jhsnowden@xxxxxxx


Tuesday, February 3, 2004, 11:19:57 AM, you wrote:

RH> Very impressive. Too bad it's not available to us. Does anyone know 
RH> for how long it has been traded in real-time? Is anyone here trading

RH> it?

RH> Ron Hudson


>> Trade by Trade Monthly Results % Gain Based On 10,000 Starting 
>> Balance 2004
>> Jan     BUY SELL PTS PROFIT/LOSS % Gain     Cumulative
>> Entry
>> 15-Jan   1129.75 1133.50 3.75  $187.50  1.88%   $187.50
>> 15-Jan   1131.50 1133.50 2.00  $100.00  1.00%   $287.50
>> 15-Jan   1131.50 1132.50 1.00  $50.00  0.50%   $337.50
>> 16-Jan   1133.75 1137.25 3.50  $175.00  1.75%   $512.50
>> 16-Jan   1133.75 1135.50 1.75  $87.50  0.88%   $600.00
>> 16-Jan   1135.00 1135.50 0.50  $25.00  0.25%   $625.00
>> 21-Jan   1137.50 1144.00 6.50  $325.00  3.25%   $950.00
>> 22-Jan   1145.25 1143.25 (2.00) ($100.00) -1.00%   $850.00
>> 23-Jan   1137.25 1143.75 6.50  $325.00  3.25%   $1,175.00
>> 26-Jan   1139.50 1142.75 3.25  $162.50  1.63%   $1,337.50
>> 26-Jan   1139.50 1142.25 2.75  $137.50  1.38%   $1,475.00
>> 26-Jan   1152.50 1142.25 (10.25) ($512.50) -5.13%   $962.50
>> 27-Jan   1152.25 1150.25 (2.00) ($100.00) -1.00%   $862.50
>> 27-Jan   1142.75 1150.25 7.50  $375.00  3.75%   $1,237.50
>> 28-Jan   1146.00 1147.50 1.50  $75.00  0.75%   $1,312.50
>> 28-Jan   1146.00 1136.00 (10.00) ($500.00) -5.00%   $812.50
>> 28-Jan   1136.00 1125.75 (10.25) ($512.50) -5.13%   $300.00
>> 29-Jan   1129.00 1131.25 2.25  $112.50  1.13%   $412.50
>> 30-Jan   1127.25 1131.50 4.25  $212.50  2.13%   $625.00
>> 30-Jan   1126.75 1131.50 4.75  $237.50  2.38%   $862.50
>> 30-Jan   1126.75 1129.25 2.50  $125.00  1.25%   $987.50
>> Jan     Trades % Profit PTS PROFIT/LOSS %
>> Totals     21.00 76.19% 19.75  $987.50  9.88%     2004
>> Feb     BUY SELL PTS PROFIT/LOSS % Gain     Cumulative
>> Entry
>> 2-Feb   1142.25 1131.50 (10.75) ($537.50) -5.38%   $450.00
>>
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>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Ron Hudson [mailto:ron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:41 PM
>> > To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: FW: e-mini day trading systems
>> >
>> >
>> > > well, currently the so called best SP ES trading system is Helix,

>> > > from Founder trading,