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RE: Pushin' and Popin' Ticks...



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Thanks for that hc, but, as you say, like PushPOP it doesn't work with  
historical data so it would be no use for backtesting.

Ian


> Ian,
> 
> Thanks for sharing the information on PushPop.
> 
> For tick chart, one may try Global Variable DLL posted
> at www.tradestationworld.com. The example provided was a tick chart.
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> However, be very careful with it.  It has its limitations too. 
> Among them are:
> * Does not work on history.  Just the latest.
> * There is still some data mismatch.  Mark Mills at TS did 
> some test and posted it at www.tradestationworld.com. 
> I could not locate the posting link now.  I tried it out on some 
> daily,
> 30 min and 3 min charts after market (not in real time).
> Somehow, the updated data does not always come through between
> the indicators.  Mark suggested that "This miss-matching of data is
> produced by the independence of charting activities."  Because of the
> mismatch, I personally decided not to use it.
> 
> Does anyone have experience with Global Variables Professional
> by www.investlabs.com?  Does it overcome the above limitations?
> 
> hc
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Waugh [mailto:ianwaugh@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 5:24 PM
> To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: ianwaugh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Pushin' and Popin' Ticks...
> 
> 
> Further to this question, I've had an email from Jan Philipp re an 
> email rom Dave Nadeau and both give permission to copy it to the list.
> 
> It appears that I cannot do what I would like to do, at least not 
> with  historical data, which makes PushPOP unsuitable for backtesting 
> at the tick level. If anyone knows of a way around this I'd love to 
> hear from them...
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> J> does Pushpop.dll work both, in real-time and historically?
> J> We used to have problems with some dlls with
> J> historical transfers until we started using GlobPro.
> 
> It  does  work  with  both  historical  and  realtime  data.
> However,  it does work differently. As data comes in tick by
> tick,  the  plotted pushpop indicator will record every tick
> and  move  incrementally. I assume this is the result of the
> ticks  being  aligned  within the arrays in which pushpop is
> storing them.
> 
> On  the  other  hand, if you should take that same tick data
> and load it from the database to do some historical testing,
> you'll  see  that the indicator changes it's value only once
> per  minute on tick charts. I assume that this is the result
> of  Tradestation's  time  resolution  going down only to the
> minute  level,  so  there's no way for pushpop to definitely
> align the information except at each one minute interval.
> 
> So,  I  would caution anyone against backtesting tick charts
> using  a pushpop'ed indicator as your results will certainly
> be different. I think that the closest you can come would be
> on using 1 minute bars.
> 
> -- 
> Dave Nadeau
> Fort Collins, CO
> 
>