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Criteria for determing a "good" trading system Part 1



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A few weeks ago I asked what criteria could be applied to a mechanical 
trading system such as Odd-Ball. I didn't get much of a response. I wrote 
the following for myself to answer the question - what criteria could be 
applied in defining what a good system is? I thought that it might be of 
interest to someone else.

I would like to know what the list thinks? Any comments?

John

p.s., I live in Russia so my replies might take some time.

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When designing or considering using a trading systems there are several 
important considerations that one must answer. The summaries of these 
questions are:

1. How much pain can one endure before puking?
         a. How long can one hold a losing position?
         b. What percentage of equity loss can one endure?
         c. Can a trade go from profits to a loss then back to profit?
2. How many trades per; hour, day, week? How much patience does the trader 
have to wait for a valid entry signal?
3. How many consecutive losing trades can be endured in:
         a. The trading system?
         b. In a day?
         c. In a week?
4. How long can a drawdown last?
5. Can a position be held over:
         a. Overnight?
         b. Over the weekend?
6. Are trades;
         a. Multiple trades in the same direction?
         b. Multiple exits?
         c. One entry and one exit (multiple lot OK)?
7. How much Capital does one have?
8. Will proper money management be followed?
9.  What percentage of trading capital can be lost:
         a. Before becoming overly anxious?
         b. Before no longer accepting the trading system signals?

How much pain can one endure before puking?

Perhaps of all the questions this one is the third most important, as 
everything revolves around it. Some traders placing a trade will 
immediately become very nervous that either they are about to lose their 
money, or might wind up giving back some of the profits. Other traders are 
not bothered as the market gyrates around creating profits and losses. And 
yet other traders will exit a trade as soon as it starts to lose money, or 
if it's not immediately profitable. Yet other traders will allow the trade 
to lose money for a certain predefined amount of time before becoming 
nervous. Every system has the potential to create tremendous stress in the 
trader. Before it is possible to accurately evaluate the performance of a 
trading system - the trader must first define how much "heat" they can take.

How many trades per; hour, day, week? How much patience does the trader 
have to wait for a valid entry signal?

This is totally dependent upon the psychological make up of the individual 
trader. Some traders want to only make 1 good trade a day. Others want to 
make 1 good trade every 30 minutes. Some traders are unable to sit all day 
in front of the trading screen waiting for one signal every other day. 
Other traders feel very pressured if they receive 1 trading signal every 60 
minutes. This is a subjective question and is only limited by the trader's 
psychological reasons and the ease of executing the trades. A on floor 
trader is able to execute mush more easily than off floor trader.

How many consecutive losing trades can be endured in; the system, in a day, 
in a week?

Every trading system by using historical back testing will indicate the 
maximum number of losing trades before a winning trade occurs. It is also 
possible to determine the average number of losing trades encountered in a 
'typical' trading day. Some traders will unswervingly take every entry 
signal that trading system generates regardless of how many consecutive 
losing trades are encountered. Other traders after encountering 5 
consecutive losing traders will stop trading for the day, and yet others 
will become nervous after 2 losing trades.

How long can drawdowns last?

Many of the more professional traders will be more concerned about the 
length and depth of a drawdown. A drawdown is the amount of trading equity 
that is lost because of consecutive or semi-consecutive losing trading 
signals. The length of this drawdown is measured from when the losing 
trades start, and ends when the trading equity is equal to or greater than 
the equity value before the drawdown.

In a trading system we can define this in the number of trades, or in some 
unit of time (hours, days, weeks, months. etc.) Every trader will have 
different tolerance levels.

Can a position be held; a few minutes, overnight, and/or over the weekend.

This again is totally dependent upon the amount of pain or heat the trader 
can endure. It is also related to a subsequent question regarding 
capitalization. In general some systems are able to capitalize upon opening 
gaps, and could be very profitable. However if the trade is exited on 
close, then re-established upon the open the next day very often the system 
performs several orders of magnitude more inferior. Some systems have all 
trades exited on or before the close.

Are positions slowly built (multiple trades in the same direction) or is 
there one entry? Likewise with the exits, is there one exit or are 
positions gradually exited? Or are there only one entry and one exit? This 
depends upon the underlying model the trading logic uses. One model 
believes that looking for a trend that allows a position to be 
incrementally increased can generate more profits. Another model believes 
that placing one trade can generate more profits. The exit strategy can 
dictate either a gradual unloading of the position or one exit.

This also has a strong correlation to the amount of money that the trader 
is willing risk, and the amount of time one wants to be in a trade. 
Generally the shorter the length of time and the less the amount of money 
willing to be risked - the less likely a trader will want to gradually 
build a position.

How much Capital does one have?

This is the second most important question. If one has little capital then 
in all likelihood this capital is proportionately more important to the 
trader than the same amount of money to a well-capitalized trader. 
Consequently the amount that can be lost, the length of time to stay with a 
trade, how long a trader can endure a drawdown, and the answer to many of 
the subsequent questions all hinge upon this. Perhaps the related question 
is; how important is this capital to maintaining the traders lifestyle? If 
it is the rent money then besides the fact the trader should not be 
trading, the trader will be looking for a system with low drawdown's, and 
low consecutive losing trades.

What percentage of trading capital can be lost before becoming overly 
anxious, and no longer accepting the trading system signals?

The answer to this question is directly related to the how important the 
trading capital is to the individual. For many of the large banks, hedge 
funds, and brokerage houses it is grounds for immediate dismissal if a 
trader is caught trading their own money. The reason is obvious, while the 
traders' income is based upon his performance; he is trading someone else's 
money. Consequently he is psychologically able to lose the firms money, it 
is not the same as using money that should be going into his Childs college 
fund. Consequently the traders' performance is usually better. A trader 
using funds that he honestly doesn't care about is psychologically much 
better off than a trader using 'important' monies.


Will proper money management be followed?

This last question is the most singularly important question a trader must 
answer before designing or evaluating a trading system. This is because the 
trader no matter how experienced in trading or programming is in the end 
playing in a battleground that is totally dominated by the "law of 
probabilities". In order for the trading logic to work it must tip the odds 
ever so slightly in its favor. If proper money management is followed it 
means that that when the inevitable drawdown begins it can be traded out 
of. If proper money management is not going to be followed then it means 
that when the inevitable drawdown begins the trader must realize that the 
game has changed and stop trading using the existing trading system and 
create another system.

The problem with this approach is that in most case the trader will not 
realize that he is experiencing a significant drawdown until most if not 
all of the profits are lost. In addition the "new" trading system might not 
be better than the old system.