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My answer: "OVERKILL RETALIATION".  The leaders of the fanatics do *not*
want to be killed nor do they believe in the preposterous propaganda of
immediate ascent into heaven for dastardly deeds.

In addition, I challenge any Islamic individual (or others) to present any
evidence from the Koran or other *generally accepted* Islamic scripture that
condones killing in the name of Allah.

The killing that we will do is to send a message that *any* assault upon us
will be returned ten thousand fold.  In the process we will decapitate their
leadership.  There will be many "sleepers" still to respond to, but if they
act, the new leadership will *know* in advance that the retribution will be
extreme.

don

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Johnson" <jejohn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Gary Fritz" <fritz@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: Re[2]: THE ANSWER


Hello Gary,

First, I wouldn't rule it out entirely.  Depends on whether it is an
irritant or significant threat to security or way of life in our
country or others. So far Christian mysticism isn 't at that level
now.  If Christian fanatics were were bombing schools or whatever in
UK, for example, I would support our government in weakening them to
the point that were no longer a threat.

Secondly, I make no pretense to equal treatment here.  That we follow
the same rules we impose on others is just another form of mysticism.
This is power geo-politics, proposals people can't refuse.

Finally, my response was to one aspect of what I believe to a
multi-dimensional.  It won't be simple; if it is it will fail.

I'm open to hear any approach and incorporate it into my views.  What
are you thinking we should do?

Friday, September 14, 2001, 2:45:19 PM, you wrote:

>> OK as far as you go.  I agree that mysticism/religion is at the route
>> of much evil.  I would argue that your assumption (posing as a
>> question) "How do you plan to find every person who is willing to give
>> his life (and take yours) for some "higher  power"?  Are you able to
>> read the minds of everyone on earth?   "
>>
>> Those things simply are not required.  You weaken suppress eviscerate
>> those individuals to the point that as a group they are an irritant
>> rather than a world force.

GF> Easy to say.  But realize that OM included ALL forms of mysticism in
GF> his definition, including Christianity.  Somehow I don't think you'll
GF> find an American government willing to "weaken suppress eviscerate"
GF> the "Christian mysticism" in this country.  Even though it is the
GF> cause of much strife.

GF> He also included all forms of patriotism and nationalism as calls to
GF> "higher powers."  Gonna shoot all the flag-waving Americans?



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 Jim                            mailto:jejohn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx