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>i think all we would have to do to know, who did what- would be to
>send an email to the Israelis and ask them. and since we are so
>indecisive maybe we could just let the Israelis also carry out the
>disciplinary actions as well.
>
>having a background in high rise construction, i can tell you i was
>amazed that the structures held up as long as they did on one hand and
>amazed that they collapsed on the other hand. let me explain.
>
>i had no idea what type of construction those building were.
>evidently i belive that they were contract primarily still
>construction rather than concrete as speculated. primarily the dust
>everyone is seeing is most likely from the millions of sheets of
>sheetrock which is used as a fireproofing agent. in the '60s
>sheetrock still contained asbestos, and I believe up until the early
>'70s.
Read carefully.
>At 08:30 PM 9/12/01 +0000
>
>Along this same thread you have to remember that Israel attacked and
>almost sank one of our listening destroyers in Mediterranean during,
>I believe the 73 war, It was flying an American flag in broad
>daylight. 36 American sailors were killed and 175 were gravely
>wounded. I believe the destroyer was the Turner Joy. Correct me if
>I have the name wrong.
>
>It was done on purpose and with great mal intent. This has even been
>admitted by the Israeli pilots and gun boat commanders who made the
>attack. They were ordered in after they had notified their
>controllers that it was an American vessel.
>
>Israel can kiss my ass. We should take back our rights of self
>determination and not allow Israel to determine our foreign policy.
>
>There is a grave distinction between those prized people of the
>Jewish Faith and Zionism. Israel has been taken over by Zionist and
>their expansionist plans.
>
>
> > Like they say in the movies, "follow the money".
> >
> > ***
> > The Israeli Dimension
> > 1800 GMT, 010911
> > By George Friedman
> > The big winner today, intended or not, is the state of Israel.
> > Israel has been under siege by suicide bombers for more than a
> > year. It has responded by waging a systematic war against
> > Palestinian command structures. The international community,
> > particularly the United States, has pressured Israel heavily to
> > stop its operations. The argument has been made that the threat
> > of suicide bombings, though real, does not itself constitute a
> > genuine threat to Israeli national security and should not
> > trigger the kind of response Israel is making.
> > Today's events change all of this.
> > First, the United States no longer can argue that Israel should
> > endure the bombings. Moving forward, the domestic American
> > political mood simply won't tolerate such a stance.
> > Second, Israel now becomes, once again, an indispensable ally to
> > the United States. The United States is obviously going to launch
> > a massive covert and overt war against the international radical
> > Islamic movement that is assumed to be behind this attack. Not
> > only does this align U.S. and Israeli interests but it also makes
> > the United States dependent on the Israelis -- whose intelligence
> > capabilities in this area as well as covert operational
> > capabilities are clearly going to be needed.
> > There is no question, therefore, that the Israeli leadership is
> > feeling relief. Given that pressures for Israel to restrain
> > operations against the Palestinian Authority and other
> > Palestinian groups will decline dramatically, it might be
> > expected that Yasser Arafat, anticipating this evolution, will
> > rapidly change his position on suicide bombings and become more
> > accommodating to Israel. In effect, today's events have wrecked
> > Arafat's nearly successful drive to split the United States from
> > Israel.
> > Given that the bombers are not fools, they undoubtedly understood
> > that this would be a consequence. Their reasoning appears to be
> > that of Lenin: "Better fewer, but better." In other words, they
> > see Arafat and many others in the Arab world as weak and
> > indecisive. They are prepared to split the Arab world between two
> > camps in which they -- though smaller and weaker -- hold the
> > imagination of the Islamic masses as well as control the tempo of
> > events.
> > The greatest question right now is this: Which Islamic state was
> > involved in the attack? We suspect that there was such
> > involvement. The sophistication required means of communication
> > and transport available only to states. Afghanistan does not have
> > the international facilities needed. We assume that Sudanese and
> > Iraqi diplomatic communications and transport are both too
> > closely monitored to be useful. If that is true, what other
> > nation provided support facilities for this operation? Answering
> > that question speaks to the future of the region.
> > George Friedman is the founder and chairman of STRATFOR, the
> > global intelligence company.
> >
> >
> >
> > ***
> > Beirut...||...WTC CTW...||...turieB
> >
> > The Mossad withheld information about a terrorist plan to drive a
>bomb into a
> > Marine barracks in Beirut; hoping to gain American sympathy for
>their cause.
> >
> > Today, an Israeli interviewee said, "...the terrorist attacks are
> > unfortunate, but now AMERICANS know how we feel [in Israel] every
>day."
> >
> > If you delete the soundtrack, the WTC collapse looks like a text
>book
> > demolition job.
> >
> > Today's forecast: All four airlines were heading WEST: 3 to LAX and
>1 to SFO.
> >
> > "Back to you, Bob."
> >
> > Ty Narada
> > www.cyonic-nemeton.com
> >
> >
> >
> > At 04:40 AM 9/12/01 +0800
> > >For all you know, the Mossard did this.
> > >Then their pilots wouldn't need to fly sorties in West Bank all by
>themselves.
>
> > >
> > >At 01:30 PM 9/11/01 -0500
> > > > This really scares me. I am very worried that a knee jerk
>reaction by
> > > >governments worldwide will precipitate WW III, and increase the
>death toll
> > > >from thousands to millions. The American public will be very
>gullible in the
> > > >aftermath of this great tradgedy. We must find the real
>perpetrators before
> > > >any action is taken. I would hate to think that those of the
>Islamic faith
> > > >are being exploited as is if they are a large group of Timothy
>Mcveigh's,
> > > >but it is possible. The guilty parties are most likely of the
>Islamic faith,
> > > >but we must take care to not punish any innocent parties. The
>news media has
> > > >already begun to show footage of Arabic people celebrating in
>the streets,
> > > >why?
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