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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Haviland" <BHaviland@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Bengtsson, Mats" <mats.bengtsson@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: RavenQuote
> Mats,
> I use RavenQuote and in fact decided to use it after researching TS and
> MetaStock (which I used to use for end of day), TraderBot, Indigo etc. I
> used to go to a TS users group when I lived in NYC and get TASC so I have
> some familiarity with system development etc. Spending some time reading
> this board was enough to convince me that it seemed a little shaky to lay
> out thousands for a program that might or might not continue to exist or
at
> the least seemed to have poor support. My main need was for a real time
> screening program where I could write custom formulas. RQ does allow for
> this although with a primitve language compared to EL (e.g. no user
created
> variables, no referencing of other formulas). The big advantages are cost
> (about $130/mo with data from quote.com) and no data to maintain. Biggest
> disadvantages: data from quote.com is sometimes shaky, RQ claims to be
> working on an interface for ESignal but it's very up in the air (there are
> questions on the message board about whether the product is really being
> supported anymore (sound familiar?) though there is a helpful tech person
> for formulas etc), no real backtesting -- only visual indicators on charts
> when formula conditions are met. Charting and screening layouts are good
but
> not as flexible as TS though I don't know how RadarScreen is doing lately.
> There is a similar product which does have more backtesting at
> StockWatchPro.com but I haven't used it so can't really comment other than
> if I was starting over I would certainly look at them.
> In summary, I'd say RQ is better than a lot of things out there but
probably
> not the choice of hard core formula writers who need to backtest.
> They do have a free trial but you need the quote.com data to run it.
> Regards,
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bengtsson, Mats" <mats.bengtsson@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "Dean DiCarlo" <junkmayl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:14 AM
> Subject: RE: No more 2000i in the US and NeoTicker
>
>
> > It might well be horrible, I have not used it, but normally there are
> pluses
> > and minuses. Where are the minuses and where are the pluses? Just
curious,
> > always good to know about alternatives...
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dean DiCarlo [mailto:junkmayl@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: den 31 augusti 2001 07:54
> > > To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: No more 2000i in the US and NeoTicker
> > >
> > >
> > > there is a program that uses q-charts data for something
> > > similar to radarscreen. It is called ravenquote. If you think
> > > TS2ki is bad, you ain't seen nothing yet, ravenquote is horrible.
> > >
> > > I am glad Qcharts data works so well for you, I had an
> > > experience to the contrary when I tried their data.
> > >
> > > VBA is more than just "a little slower" than C++. If it
> > > wasn't, nobody would program in C++.
> > >
> > > Deano
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Max Pierson [mailto:maxpi_44@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:02 PM
> > > To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: No more 2000i in the US and NeoTicker
> > >
> > >
> > > I just got my copy of TS2Ki Platinum a few weeks ago,
> > > really glad I did not pay retail, bought it used from
> > > a friend. Yes I don't get "customer no-service" and so
> > > far I have not needed it. The charting is so hokey and
> > > hard to use compared to qcharts, the backtesting can't
> > > seem to be done over a long period of time if your
> > > system uses daily and intraday bars [in fairness this
> > > may be something I don't understand how to do or a
> > > problem with using ASCII data], can backtest and
> > > optimize only one issue at a time, and my computer
> > > never locked up before installing it but it now does,
> > > frequently. For what I paid for it, it is fine, just a giant
> > > stock trading tutorial, it will carry me forward to the next
> > > goal of having the radarscreen that will alert me when a
> > > trade is indicated and basically since my recent switch from
> > > using free websites to develope trading systems, to TS2Ki I
> > > have been on "fast forward" as far as system performance and
> > > knowledge. Worth every penny but not going to be my last
> > > software at all.
> > >
> > > As far as somebody else developing software that does
> > > what I need it to do, [test multiple systems over
> > > large folios of issues, run fast enough to watch a
> > > large number of issues] and lots of other stuff,
> > > forget it. I got the VB tutorial from Microsoft last
> > > December and had an Excel spreadsheet that was
> > > watching hundreds of issues and updating in realtime
> > > by March and I'm not a programmer or educated at all,
> > > just played with Basic in the old days. That was after
> > > trying two data provision routes that did not work
> > > well and crashed my software all of the time too, and
> > > just a part time endeavor at that. VBA only runs a
> > > little slower than C++ and Excel will do anything and
> > > everything you can think of. If you can flowchart it you can
> > > write it. I really recommend that route after seeing how weak
> > > TS2Ki is, my object of worship, wizard of oz, etc. It's just
> > > plain hokey. It figures, look at the stock price on TRAD, it
> > > indicates a not-first-rate-outfit doesn't it?
> > >
> > > My recommendation to anybody that wants to develope a
> > > backtester and radarscreen is that they build it on
> > > quote.com's data (very easy to manage, you can pull it from
> > > their server anytime, well most of the time, and in whatever
> > > bar format you want, no need to have ANY data on your own
> > > machine at all), and quote.com's chart program which is
> > > basically really nice, add a GUI (something that my own
> > > program will probably never have), make it backtest multiple
> > > systems over multiple folios, produce the results right in
> > > the spreadsheet for sorting, etc. That would not, in all
> > > actuality, be a formidable task for a programmer that was
> > > organized. If it then was as easy to program as EasyLanguage
> > > (I don't know how that would be done exactly) and cost less
> > > than $1000 you could sell a lot of copies I would guess. It
> > > would be very easy to expand too, rewriting VBA code is
> > > pretty simple and VBA seems to run really well, I had no
> > > particularly difficult problems with it in 3 months of programming.
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents worth, hope nobody got shortchanged.
> > >
> > > Max
> > >
> >
> >
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