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RE: Re: Re[2]: NeoTicker (was Re: EL to VB translator)



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Glad to see that even TJ  agrees with the current TSPro market niche
situation!...

Well, I wanted to reply before this post but it would have been to say the
same things reated to te Omega List paranoia:
Any information that could be interpreted as the announcement of the end of
TRAD ( a recurrent subject here) is always developed more than necessary as
well as the TS replacement solution, all of the picture being illustrated by
the flight of a couple of vultures that expect to beat TRAD at its game with
their so called replacement, not to speak of the usual double precison
basher that has added half a dozen of vicious posts.

Nothing new under the sun,as usual,only normal evolution  and I have no more
info that that you know, but:
I have  signed an agreement to sell the  2000i series and it is still valid.
The fact that TRAD do not sell directly is more related to their local
situation and legal issues.
Ths does not mean that the 2000i serie will disappear tomorrow, because it's
a still a mandatory solution for most of us oversea, not to speak of
RadarScreen an OptionStation that TSPro still cannot yet replace.

For example, TRAD chaged the buy-sell-exit orders syntax, obviously because
they are brokers and they do not want lawsuits because someone was misleaded
by these words. This may appaear stupid, but they live in a country where
successfull lawsuits were observed from minor errors.

The 2000i serie will live until the need of it will not be necessary
anymore. This is not yet the case, but some day the internet will be  good
enough everywhere to cut off the satellite broadcast need.

The way that TRAD follows is obviously the way to go, see Bilo's posts where
he is more enthusiast that I could be ( probably he does not have  5 -10
ADSL failures per day).
The analysis that he has done is a kind of to what I may agree without
reserve.
For the others frigthened members, I cannot do anything.

An other word: We are completing the Safir-X pro version that will have
portfolio capabilities and portfolio optimisation, all of that 100%
automated by AI.
I am also in the process of publishing realtime results, and moving to an
other floor, so you do not have too much time these days.

 Still sad to see that some are still concerned by classical brute force
optimisation. At this time, I have not too much time to explain, but if you
are still convicted  that two decades old technology implementation is still
a progress, I may understand why they will never understand the TRAD
policy...

Sincerely,

Pierre Orphelin
www.sirtrade.com
TradeStation Technologies representative in France
Neurofuzzy things for Tradestation




> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : tradejack@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tradejack@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Envoyé : jeudi 30 août 2001 15:04
> À : omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Objet : Re: Re: Re[2]: NeoTicker (was Re: EL to VB translator)
>
>
> the problem as i see it is one of cost and time. on one hand, you
> got one dude working 12 years on a system tester and it doesn't
> even have charting yet (or ever will), and on the other a sw guy
> arm waves how it won't be too difficult to build a ts replacement
> using a non-internet dead dog like m3 as a server! give me a f-in
> break guys!!! if this stuff was easily to develop, we would be
> chin deep in trading software with ts capabilities.
>
> what u want costs money...and takes a shitload of time...period.
> look at neoticker. slowly but surely it's coming along. and as
> it's functionality increases, so will its price, as it should.
> ppl who want this stuff bitch bout how much data costs, how high
> commish are, yada yada and on and on. r u willing to pay 5K for
> ts clone with portfolio testing and opt? probably what it would
> cost per unit being that it's an small niche market. hell, most
> folks won't pay more than 500 bucks for a used copy ts4 these days!!!
>
> so what to do? probably use ts til the day it dies....or i do ;)
>
> TJ
>
> hey, where's my bud fuzzy pete? surely he knows a thing or two
> bout what's going on at omega/trad these days   :)))
>
> gary fritz wrote:
> >BTW a tool already exists that does most or all this -- Trading
> >Recipes.  But it has no charting module and (so far) no intraday or
> >realtime abilities.  I want to be able to SEE my system as I develop
> >it, AND execute it on the same platform, the way I can in TS.
> >Basically I want TS with portfolio capabilities.
>