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I have Tradelab and it has potential, but is not is a state that can be
very useful. Ver 1 has many limitations and much of the functionality has
not been implemented or turn on yet. Ver 2 has been promised for quite
some time, but things have been eerily, quite from them to us the users.
Since then, I have jumped to try another product. It is NeoTicker, by
Tickquest. It also uses UMDS, is programmable. It uses the Windows
scripting language, and provides a lot of functionality. One can use VB
Script, Delphi Script, or Java Script. I an upcoming release, they are
going to provide a very open set of API's so you will be able to do all of
your development if a compiled 32bit language, for those of us who prefer
that way. Currently the price is only $550 for real time and only $80
for end of day. You can download a real working demo. It will only let
you open one window at a time. I will be glad to answer any questions I
can. Compared to Tradelab it is very fast, in loading charts and its
responsiveness to user input/movement in the GUI. Unlimited # of all of
the following -- charts, groups, type of charts, sub charts (panes),
indicators on a chart or subchart. They GUI is clean and useable. Those
familiar with TS4, should not have a steap learning curve, but some things
are different.
Also, They are very responsive to listening to us, the customer(boy what a
switch) and adding functionality. Give it a try.
The usual -- I am not affiliated, or paid by them . Blah, blah, blah. ...
only a happy customer.
www.tickquest.com
John
At 07:34 AM 4/3/2001, DT wrote:
>What about TradeLab? www.tradelab.net
>
>Do anyone try it?
>Any opinion, pls
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: brian [mailto:polar@xxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:24 AM
>To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Why futures truth doesn't care about stealing your system
>
>I have asked in the past if anyone has ever tried mathematica's technical
>trader package. I used the basic mathematica package years ago in school
>and it's very similar to matlab in its math and graphics capabilities. The
>problem with
>moving to a completely "open" platform is that you have to build everything
>from scratch with basically no technical support. I don't mean just
>buy/sell coding but more difficult but also important aspects like not
>allowing buy/sell entry on
>limit up/down days, etc. Someone who trades with their software will
>usually be responsive to making these types of changes. However, I doubt
>the matlab/mathematica people will have a clue if you call for support
>asking why you're getting
>buy signals in limit lumber when it couldn't have occurred. As an aside, I
>completely agree that those packages do provide better all around number
>crunching and graphics - and they are portable across platforms. But the
>problem as I see it
>is that there is no main framework established to work with. While I can
>programming is fair I prefer to use the Japanese approach and customize and
>upgrade an existing product rather than reinvent the wheel myself. If at
>some point these
>companies begin to develop software for trading system design I would
>happily pay for their product as I am tired of importing/exporting data
>across multiple applications but I don't see it occurring anytime soon. I
>spoke with the sales rep
>at mathematica a while back and when I asked simple questions as to what the
>technical trader package could do he seemed baffled. Many places do use
>these packages in their risk management side as they can quickly calculate
>var/bp values but
>I don't know anyone who uses these packages exclusively for system design.
>I do know one person who developed his testing platform with APL and Gauss
>but he was somthing of a programming prodigy and it still took him close to
>two years to
>work the bugs out. Maybe if enough people call one of the major math
>computing companies will decide to offer something for traders but since the
>universe of technically proficient ssytem developers is relatively small
> compared to the
>number of university research research types ) I still have my bets on an
>outside trading company/programmer developing a package for these products
>first, if at ever.
>
> > Subject: Re: Why futures truth doesn't care about stealing your system
> > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:05:12 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Lawrence Chan <stnahc@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > well, OR looks like failed in the software
> > business and have to remake itself into a brokerage.
> >
> > maybe they priced their stuff too cheap :)
> > the prices you see for matlab is institutional
> > pricing - that's why they look expensive.
> >
> > high power tools are never available to
> > the public anyway ...
> >
> > -Lawrence
> >
> > --- Robert <robert_h@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Every now and then someone says MatLab is good for
> > > financial programmers.
> > > Look at the prices below from the MathWorks web
> > > site. They make
> > > TradeStation at $2500 look cheep. Just the C++ Math
> > > Library is $900! Their
> > > "Real-Time Workshop" is $21,870!! The MatLab stuff
> > > is for people with more
> > > money than brains.
> > >
> >
> > =====
> > Lawrence Chan http://www.tickquest.com
> > Home of trading tools NeoBreadth and NeoTicker series
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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