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RE: Off-topic: Tape Backups



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With all due respect nothing can beat backing up to a second or even third
hard drive.  That setup is far ahead of anything in speed, cost, reliability
and retrievability.  I have two desktop computers and a laptop on an
ethernet LAN.  The two desktops have 2 15gb hard drives each.  I backup
important stuff onto 2 other hard drives.  Less important stuff just gets
backed up onto one other drive.  Gary mentions hard drive failure as a risk
inherent in using hard drives as backup media.  I respectfully disagree.
You have your data on hard drive #1 and your backup of that data on hard
drive #2 and maybe even another backup on hd #3.  There is virtually no way
even two hard drives are going to fail simultaneously.  Thus there is less
danger than any other media.  As to off premises storage I ftp my MS Money
file (the only file I have that I couldnt live without) to my son to store
on his hard drive.  Sometimes I take my laptop over there to make the
backup.  Some people back up everything.  I only backup data.  I can restore
my O/S and software from the original disks in a few hours if I have a disk
failure.  I have been using computers full time since 1983 and I have never
had a hard drive fail.  I probably shouldnt have said that.  All 5 will go
south tomorrow to spite me. :o)

Bill Wood

-----Original Message-----
From: M. Simms [mailto:prosys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 4:08 PM
To: fritz@xxxxxxxx
Cc: Omega-List
Subject: RE: Off-topic: Tape Backups


Wait....what about the good old Omega Jazz drives as an
alternative.....reliable, fast, and removeable....
I have the old 1 gig, but there is now 2 gigs I believe.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Fritz [mailto:fritz@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 1:04 PM
> To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Off-topic: Tape Backups
>
>
> > I've been using Ghost and a removable hard drive for backup for a
> > couple of years now.  I have a 30GB drive and back all up in disk
> > images.
>
> That sounds interesting.  I can't find any removable HD's on
> shopper.cnet.com -- what are you using?  Probably costs a bit more
> than the $50 per 10GB I mentioned before.  :-)
>
> > OK, now don't start flaming but I use a FAT32 driver on my NT 4.0
> > system because I can restore individual files from the Ghost FAT32
> > disk image.
>
> Couldn't you do that if both were NTFS?  Or doesn't Ghost support
> NTFS?
>
> Somebody on RT mentioned the Plextor CDRW drives.  I did a bit of
> digging and it sounds like they're getting the reliability problems
> under control.  The Plextor drives (and some others) use a technology
> called BURN-Proof, which allows the drive to pause recording if it
> runs out of data, then resume when its buffer fills up again.
> http://windows.oreilly.com/news/pchardnut_0900.html says they used to
> be afraid to move their mouse while burning a CD, for fear of
> interrupting the burn.  With the Plextor they successfully wrote a CD
> while defragging their disk!  So CDRW's might be a reasonable
> alternative after all -- if you get the right drive.
>
> Gary
>