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RE: TS delays quotes in Win98 and ME, but not Win2000



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Sorry, Gary, even Windows NT isn't a *real* operating system.  NT does not
support true process protection, preemptive multitasking, a decent virtual
memory model or any of the facilities that make Unix/Linux operating systems
so robust and smooth running.

In the many years of using NT, the operating system has been nothing but a
big pain in the butt.  Example, if I leave my NT system up and running for
weeks at a time (assuming it doesn't crash for some reason) it will
eventually grind to a halt with much disk thrashing.  The reason?  Some kind
of bug in the virtual memory manager.  Rebooting corrects the problem, but I
shouldn't have to... not if NT was a truly professional operating system.

Windows 2000 is basically Microsoft's first decent operating system, because
they've finally caught up with what the Unix world takes for granted (i.e.
protected memory spaces, preemtive multitasking, etc etc).  It's amazing
that it took them so many years to finally come out with something that is
grownup and usable.

- John


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Fritz [mailto:fritz@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:18 PM
To: Omega-List
Cc: Bilo Selhi
Subject: Re: TS delays quotes in Win98 and ME, but not Win2000

NT is a *REAL* operating system, designed from the ground up with
resource management features &etc that W9x can only try to fake.  It
is very solid and very reliable.  I've been running TS4 (and usually
8-10 other apps like IE5, Visual Studio, Excel, MS Word, Pegasus
mailer, Xnews newsreader, etc etc) for two years now, and in that
time I have had ONE problem when NT got confused and required a
reboot.  I've had many times when **TS** got itself hosed and could
only be fixed with a reboot, but that's not NT's fault.  NT has NEVER
EVER crashed or hung on me in 2 years of hard daily use.

Windows 2000 is the next-generation NT, like Win 98 is the next-gen
Win 95.  They took the NT guts and improved them.  From what I'm
hearing, they did an excellent job.

NT and W2k have REAL resource managers that can handle things
properly when an ill-behaved application (can you say TradeStation?)
mismanages its resources.  With W9x, lost resources will toast your
entire system.  With NT or W2k, at worst it will mess up the
application that can't clean up after itself.

If you are trying to TRADE on W95, 98, or ME, I would **STRONGLY**
recommend that you move to Windows 2000 as SOON as possible.

If you stay on W9x, you can count on continued crashes, memory
problems, lockups, etc., *especially* if you are running TS2k or TS
Pro.  Many of these problems will be unexplainable and non-
repeatable.  You will continue to fight invisible computer demons as
long as you insist on using the wrong tool for the job.

Furthermore, you will HAVE to move to W2k or its successors
eventually, because Win ME is the *LAST* release in the W9x line.
Microsoft is finally going to shoot the dead horse and move
everything over to the NT-based platform.  The next Windows release,
called "Whistler," is essentially the W2k OS with some of the Win ME
toys grafted on top.  The Win 9x / Win ME guts will be gone forever,
and good riddance.

I haven't moved to W2k yet, because NT is very solid.  When W2k has
gone through 4-5 service packs I'll move over, but what I have now is
so reliable that I see no reason to move to an OS that is still
fairly young.  But W2k, even in its initial releases, was FAR better
and more solid than any of the W9x family.  If I was on W9x now, I'd
move to W2k rather than going through the NT side-trip.

Moving to W2k will be a major undertaking, no question.  But so is
trying to run TS2k/TS Pro on W9x system, isn't it?  Once you've
moved, you will be *amazed* at how many of your former problems just
disappear.

> let's do that? so that we could figure out if there is really a
> memory problems or need better hardware...
> this is very important as we should know what hardware an OS we
> need for the job.

Other people have done this already.  We've had lots of people post
on this list that their TS2k problems disappeared when they moved
from W9x to NT or W2k.

I'd bet your current hardware is good enough.  You just need to put a
decent OS on it.

Gary