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RE: ATT:Tradergirl!! (LINUX DOWNLOAD $0)



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Get off this Java rant, please!  Enough!  Let's talk trading, if you can.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [ tradergirl ] [mailto:tradergirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 11:26 AM
> To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx; Howard Jackson
> Subject: Re: ATT:Tradergirl!! (LINUX DOWNLOAD $0)
> 
> 
> If anyone cares to know, all the major videogame
> producers are implementing Macromedia Flash
> into their chipsets to be able to display Flash'd
> websites as these machines start getting connected
> to the net.
> 
> Most of the machines have dropped Java support
> completely.  Has anyone seen Java do something
> even half as cool as Flash?  I've been waiting for
> years to see it, and now Flash is coming out with
> stuff to interface with C/Perl.  Although it is 
> proprietary, it sure is fun to see some good flash.
> 
> Anyone interested to see Flash can go see it 
> here:
> 
> www.kimble.org
> 
> bye! :)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Howard Jackson" <hrjf4@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 7:36 AM
> Subject: RE: ATT:Tradergirl!! (LINUX DOWNLOAD $0)
> 
> 
> > There are no plans on having "any" software for sale
> > on a CD-ROM at the store.
> > Computer hardware is splitting paths right now: bigger
> > and faster machines, smaller more user friendly
> > machines.
> > The bigger-faster ones are going to be used by
> > developers, servers and whoever needs to 'create' new
> > software or services. 
> > The smaller-friendlier are going to be used by
> > everyone else.
> > You will choose where you will be depending on your
> > occupation/likes-dislikes.
> > The problem with Java is that it 'requires' you to
> > download the application, then have the browser (or
> > Java Machine) translate it and run it. These
> > smaller-friendlier devices will not necessarily have
> > storage devices where you can store all the junk Java
> > makes you download. I can't use anything Java on my
> > Handheld PC, WebTV is pretty much on the same boat,
> > and what when you start surfing the net from your car
> > or your microwave oven? are all devices going to have
> > HDs?
> > Java will not be able to be used for mass market
> > tasks, so it will just go away with time...
> > Java is simply not practical and how it was mentioned,
> > its inefficiant and not scalable...
> > 
> > H
> > --- John Machtinger <jmach@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 16 May 2000, M. Simms wrote:
> > > 
> > > > A well-founded concern.
> > > > But 3 things are happening to lessen this problem:
> > > > 1) Java 1.3 "Java 3" is imminent and beta tests
> > > are showing 200-300%
> > > > performance increases !!!
> > > 
> > > Two questions from an ignorant bystander (of which I
> > > consider myself to 
> > > be fortunate in this particular debate):  :D
> > > 
> > > 1.  Is Java designed to be downloaded to a client
> > > computer every time an
> > > application is run?  For a web site applet, I
> > > understand the logic, but
> > > for an application like a word processor, it seems
> > > like a huge waste of
> > > bandwith and time.  Are there plans to write
> > > applications in Java that you
> > > buy at the store on CD-ROM just like other software?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 2.  If not, then why is it solely an interpretive
> > > language?  Why not have
> > > a compiler for each platform it runs on, and compile
> > > it? 
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>