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It this is true, why has SUNW gone thru the roof and MSFT gone to hell in
the past 6 months ?
Also, check out BEA Systems......a major Java app player.
Java developers are getting $150-200 PER HOUR !!!
80% of the e-commerce backends are built upon Java.
80% of the DHTML (dynamic web pages) is based on a derivative Javascript.
Sun is getting a lot of flak for trying to control it.....the developers
like me are hammering them about licensing and trademark issues....daily. We
are trying to insure that SUN becomes a "benevolent" player here and avoids
building the "Evil Empire II" which is what everyone is worried about.
Bill Joy article: no one in the Java world was happy with that one.
Ignore Java at your own peril.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [ tradergirl ] [mailto:tradergirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 12:54 PM
> To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx; M. Simms
> Subject: ThinkJava?
>
>
> Think waste of time. If Java had a trading symbol on the CME, I
> would start
> betting short, my whole entire portfolio against it? Why?
> Because it is an
> invention of truly sick minds. I refused in school to touch it,
> and told my
> professor I will not program in a non-GNU based language. I will only
> program in GCC if anything. He agreed. He reluctantly agreed.
>
> Why aren't you supporting Open Source? Why are you backing a proprietary
> programming language, is my question? Why on earth would you
> support Sun in
> its attempts to create a language they control? Because it is scalable
> across a bunch of platforms? Who needs a bunch of platforms? I want
> Microsoft and Macs to die. I want free operating systems to thrive, and
> right now, if you think programming or modifying C/C++ is tough, then that
> is your opinion, but 30,000 developers right this second are on
> SourceForge,
> and Freshmeat.net, and doing just fine.
>
> Let me also say, Bill Joy, their Java/Jinni guy over @ sun is the
> stupidist
> ass I have come across. Read his article in WIRED last month? He thinks
> Terminator styled Borgs will be here within 20 years and we will all be
> enslaved by them. You think this turkey know what he is talking about?
>
> I liken Java to Prolog. Both were complete junk from the beginning.
>
> -TraderGirl
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "M. Simms" <prosys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ tradergirl ]" <tradergirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; "OX" <enchant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 8:09 AM
> Subject: RE: ATT:Tradergirl!! (LINUX DOWNLOAD $0)
>
>
> > Think JAVA, not Linux. Someday, SOMEONE will build a great MULTIPLATFORM
> > trading system and it will be in JAVA. Many Linux-based solutions are
> > written in C++.....fast, but totally non-portable. AND a "bear" to
> maintain
> > and modify !!
>
> Bear to modify? Go look at SOURCEFORGE.NET, or FRESHMEAT.NET
> there are currently like 30,000 open source developers working with C/C++
> right now, on tons of projects, all working together, for FREE SOFTWARE.
> $0
>
> >
> > Formula One 7.0 from www.tidestone.com has a terrific, Excel-compatible
> > spreadsheet program.
> > It runs EVERYWHERE.....Linux, Solaris, MAC, Windows, etc.
> >
> > Systems requirements: only 1 megabyte plus the most recent Java
> "JVM 2.0".
> > Contact Tidestone and you should inquire as to vars and programmers who
> have
> > customized it for a trading application. Why ? Unfortunately, you must
> know
> > Java to customize it.
>
> Notice how Sun is moving hard into their Jinni deal? Sort of moving head
> on,
> as sort of soon to be overshadowing Java?
>
>
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [ tradergirl ] [mailto:tradergirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 1:09 AM
> > > To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx; OX
> > > Subject: Re: ATT:Tradergirl!! (LINUX DOWNLOAD $0)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "OX" <enchant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "[ tradergirl ]" <tradergirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 7:16 PM
> > > Subject: ATT:Tradergirl!!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Trader Girl....
> > > >
> > > > can I ask if there is a Linux package that is equall too or
> better the
> > > > MS XL spreadsheet?
> > >
> > >
> > > do a search on:
> > >
> > > www.freshmeat.net
> > >
> > > There will be a bunch of them, I am sure. Or, just download or
> > > get StarOffice, it is like identical to Microsoft Office 2000 Pro, and
> has
> > > a built in WebBrowser, Word Processor, Spreadsheet, etc. etc. etc.
> > >
> > > It is a 70meg download from www.sun.com - or you can order the entire
> > > software on CD for $5, OR-- and get the manual, I think for $15.
> > >
> > > > thank you and kind regards
> > > > Stephen from Australia......!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > and what version and package of Linux do you recoomend to run?
> > >
> > > Corel or Caldera is you are an end-user (even RedHat is good)
> > > Redhat, Mandrake, SuSE, Debian, if you want more raw joy.
> > >
> > > Corel is the most user friendly right now, and includes Word Perfect
> > > Office Suite Pro on it.
> > >
> > > I use Mandrake now, but that is only because I have a DualPentium
> > > Linux box, and it can take advantage of two-processors simultaneously.
> > >
> > > TraderGirl
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