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Brian:
"As usual", from your projections of conspiracy to being master of
generalizations, we all wait for your other foot in the mouth..
Brian Massey wrote:
> Don,
>
> Don't be mad at me for just pointing out the holes in your logic. I've
> wanted to do that for a long time because most of your posts exhibit the
> same jump-to-conclusions analysis. This was my chance.
>
> Also, I factored in the screaming in the beginning too. What ever happened
> to mail etiquette on this list?
>
> Regards,
> Brian.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don Roos [mailto:roos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 5:30 PM
> > To: Omega Group
> > Subject: Re: Comstock and quote.com
> >
> >
> > Brian ("As Usual") Massey:
> >
> > I figured that was your button! (:>}
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> >
> > Brian Massey wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know how long you've been around this (you're a recent
> > newbie) but,
> > > AS USUAL, you've missed the point here. The point was that
> > before DBC bot
> > > BMI, there ** was ** more bandwidth, according to the numbers.
> > I don't know
> > > what happened to it but I think they sold it. They aren't
> > adding bandwidth
> > > because the future of data feed isn't cable and we all know
> > that. So just
> > > chill out cause (AS USUAL) you don't have all the data. I've
> > been dealing
> > > with DBC probably longer than you've been trading and I know DBC and the
> > > games they play, just as well as anybody. And believe me, it
> > was WITH GREAT
> > > PLEASURE the day I dropped their feed and told them to f-off **.
> > >
> > > If this list is any indication then DBC is loosing BMI cable
> > customers to
> > > competitors. How well DBC fares will be determined by how well
> > they convert
> > > people over to eSignal. BMI is dead in the water! I went
> > leafing through
> > > some recent issues of TASC and couldn't find a single ad for
> > BMI. Found at
> > > least 1 in each issue for e-signal but none for BMI. The last
> > 1 for BMI I
> > > remember seeing was about a year back. It appears as if DBC is
> > > intentionally trying to bleed off BMI. And recent comments on
> > the this list
> > > attributed to BMI reps seem to indicate the same. Nothing is going to
> > > change yet market activity will increase and delays will get longer, and
> > > data quality worse. Nothing will change because the current
> > system is in
> > > place and to change anything would cost more money.
> > >
> > > There are probably lots out ther who do both stocks and futures. So
> > > completely dropping stocks would be stupid. That'd be a sure
> > way to loose a
> > > bunch of customers right now instead of loosing them slowly.
> > Trading stocks
> > > off BMI (so called) RT on a 60, 30, 15 or even 5 minute time frame isn't
> > > that bad right now. In fact, it's pretty damn good. So why
> > would BMI drop
> > > stocks since the moajority of their customer base probably
> > trade stocks???
> > > Wake up Don. BMI is not going to stop broadcasting stocks.
> > That's just you
> > > dreaming with your head in cow pod again. There always has
> > been more stock
> > > traders than futures traders though some sheltered individuals
> > on this list
> > > think that the universe revolves around the futures markets.
> > It doesn't.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Don Roos [mailto:roos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 10:08 PM
> > > > To: bnm03@xxxxxxx; Omega Group
> > > > Subject: Re: Comstock and quote.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE PARANOID, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT OUT
> > TO GET YOU!
> > > >
> > > > Of course they could add bandwith: but everything has a price.
> > > > Apparantly the
> > > > bottom line indicates that it would not be profitable. Only if
> > > > the competition
> > > > is eating up their customer base will they make the changes
> > necessary to
> > > > compete. Otherwise, it's business as usual, which is "do
> > > > nothing". There's no
> > > > conspiracy. Just a business decision, however strange it seems
> > > > to us. The
> > > > rumor about real time for the price of delayed would be just
> > cutting their
> > > > profits with no big benefit. And the exchanges would laugh in
> > > > their face to be
> > > > asked to waive the exchange fees. The best idea that I can see
> > > > is to go to
> > > > futures only, like TJ has said, to improve their quality
> > > > dramatically, which
> > > > would allow them to continue with high prices. But you can't
> > > > have both poor
> > > > quality and high prices or you die as a business. ("Dah, it
> > > > gives me a clean
> > > > close shave, coach").
> > > >
> > > > Don
> > > >
> > > > Brian Massey wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "I don't buy for a second the
> > > > > BMI claim that they can't add bandwidth."
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll go even one further: I bet they slow it
> > intentionally. What ever
> > > > > happened to BMI's brand new 56K V-Line before DBC bought BMI out? I
> > > > > remember having to back down to 36.6 after DBC got their grimy
> > > > ass hands on
> > > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Riddle me that DBC, you fn crooks!
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Dennis Holverstott [mailto:dennis@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:18 PM
> > > > > > To: Omega List
> > > > > > Subject: Comstock and quote.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Riddle me this. :-) Everyone seems to praise Comstock as
> > a "premium"
> > > > > > data feed and everyone ridicules quote.com's obviously crummy
> > > > EOD data.
> > > > > > Problem is quote.com gets their crummy data from Comstock. So is
> > > > > > Comstock really any good or does everyone just assume it
> > is because it
> > > > > > costs so much? Will tradestation.com have the same crummy
> > EOD data as
> > > > > > quote.com?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ps - sorry TJ but I'll take realtime quote.com tick data for
> > > > the e-mini
> > > > > > over BMI any day. You must have lousy internet service to be
> > > > so critical
> > > > > > of quote.com. It ain't perfect but, on balance, it's a better
> > > > tick feed
> > > > > > than BMI.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pps - I'll second the hope that DTN doesn't go away. They
> > are a Bridge
> > > > > > feed which seems to have better EOD data than Comstock
> > and they have
> > > > > > enough bandwidth to handle all the ticks. I don't buy for
> > a second the
> > > > > > BMI claim that they can't add bandwidth. They just want to force
> > > > > > everybody to use E-Signal cuz it's cheaper and easier for
> > > > them. Problem
> > > > > > is there are better internet feeds than E-Signal so it's
> > lose/lose for
> > > > > > DBC and BMI.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Dennis
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
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