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>>I do not think ribau's comments are fair to say the least. Why would the
>>inability of omega to write 10-20 lines of code to be prepared for the
>>possible floating point dates which TC2000 might be using, be TC2000's
>>fault.
Chris Worden mailed a letter on Dec 16, 1999, informing clients that v3.0
and v3.5 would be discontinued after Jan 1, 2000. This letter was not
received until Dec 21, 1999, probably delayed in the holiday rush. This is
the biggest finger pointing at Worden Bros, they did not give customers
sufficient time to make arrangements.
When I confronted them with this lapse of consideration for loyal clients,
they offered a full refund rather than discuss the problems or give a time
frame for correction. This is unacceptable behavior from a data provider
that has more than doubled the price of it's data since upgrading the
software to v4 (TC2000 v3 was approx $21/month including all equities,
indexes, and mutuals, v4 costs $30/month and when finally released, mutuals
will be an additional $30/month). I am happily accepting their offer since
their usual policy is to refund only 50% of remaining funds.
The Worden Bros export to ASCII is a real labor because it's not a "smart
export." Each time you use it you must tell it which list to export, then
you must enter the fields you wish exported (YYYYMMDD Open High Low Close
Vol), and you must tell it how many days to export, and be sure to set the
dates to Ascending because Descending is the default. If you make a mistake
in any of this you get to do the whole thing over again. It's not quite
like automatically exporting good old v3 data.
And check out the workaround if you use MetaStock:
>>This a temporary way of converting the data to a MetaStock format until we
>>are able to finish the research on do the conversion automatically with
>>version 4. Note we are only sure this works with Metastock 6.5x.
>>1 Export the data in v3 format using smart export.
>>2 Open their MetaStock end of day mode program.
>>3 Click on TOOLS and select THE DOWNLOADER.
>>4 In the Downloader window, click on TOOLS and select CONVERT.
>>5 This will bring up a "Convert Securities" window.
>>6 In the Source area, change the File Type to TC2000
>>7 In the Folder window type, in the name of export dir. i.e. c:\tcv3data
>>8 In the File name, window type in *.ndx.
>>9 Under Destination Area in the file type windows, put in MetaStock.
>>10 IN the Folder window, type in the directory of the location where you
>>want the data in Metastock format stored. I suggest a new folder since this
>>is only a temporary work around until we get our normal export working.
>>11 VERY IMPORTANT! You must click on the Options button and under the Source
>>tab and check the box to Traverse source folders. If you don't do this it
>>will not do a mass convert and only let you choose one symbol at a time.
>>12 After completing all these steps, then click OK and the conversion will
>>begin.
>>13 Once the conversion is complete, you then click close on the CONVERSION
>>REPORT window.
>>14 Click on FILE and then EXIT the Downloader window. This will bring you
>>back to the MetaStock window
>>15 Click on FILE and then select OPEN and then goto the conversation export
>>directory and choose a symbol to open.
It's not in my nature to be easy on Omega, and they certainly could have at
least prepared TS2Ki for v4 data (and a patch so TS4 could read v4), but
the real point of this thread is that Worden Bros was apparently completely
unaware of how the Millennium change would affect their business or their
clients. The original message stated:
>>I have received messages that the data from tc2000 cannot be transferred
>>to Trade Station in any format( v3, v4, Metastock or Ascii). I have not
>>been successful in transferring in v3 or Ascii.(ascii could be my fault
>>because it appears to allow a 4digit date for the year).
In addition, since the beginning of the year the data has not been ready
before 10-11pm ET (they promise it by 6:30pm ET on their toll free line).
Perhaps they also ran into y2K problems in their hardware or the software
running their machines, I don't know, but as a user I know they were great
for years, very dependable and accurate, but in my opinion they're not so
great anymore. I would accuse Worden Bros of being unfair, they failed to
prepare themselves and there was plenty of warning.
My reply to the original poster was intended to convey the fact that it
could be a long time before TCv4 could again speak conveniently to TSv4 or
TS2Ki. And it might not be worth the wait.
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