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I believe that several of your demands are not reasonable.
As I understand CyberX, it is a direct execution systems intended to be an
add-in to other third-party real-time charting software (like q-charts). I
use another package (TradeCast, which I despise) and would really like to
have SOME of the automation features of CyberX, such as the software stops.
Stops entered by on-line firms remote from your own computer are visible to
market makers, who then can "gun" them (at least on listed stocks). I also
suspect that some of the larger brokerages play with their customers' stops,
to their own advantage. The risk of bad connections, etc., comes with the
territory, and I would rather that no one else sees my stops.
Regarding execution, using direct execution software depends on the skill of
the user. I don't see how you could compare to an on-line broker--it is
completely different.
The real question is how their automatic execution works; they represent it
as finding the best execution route, but some here have said it does a
better job of finding the best commission for CyberTrader. The capability
of having software help with execution in a fast market is great, if it
really works. This cannot be compared at all to any execution with an
on-line broker, where you are really out of control and there are inherent
time delays.
Regarding your internet traffic question, the solution is to not use the
internet! How can they control the internet routing and hops?
As I said, I don't use CyberX, but have been looking at it. The execution
questions and commissions are the main issues to me. (don't think I will go
with them as yet).
-----Original Message-----
From: William R Wood <wr_wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Sigstroker@xxxxxxx <Sigstroker@xxxxxxx>; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
<omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 9:15 AM
Subject: CyberX/Tradecast/Real Tic
>I have been through the demo for CyberX a direct trading system for fairly
>active traders. This is an offshoot of CyberTrader which is meant for
>daytraders or very active traders. The CyberX concept is interesting but I
>have some questions which I posed to Cybercorp:
>
> 1) What do the extra fees noted on your webpage amount to in reality. I
>dont want to pay more than 14.95 per trade, in fact, I want to pay less.
>Your webpage does not indicate whether most trades have extra fees or not.
>I trade NASDAQ and NYSE stocks generally in lots of 500 shares or less.
>
>2) Main question is stop orders. I exit virtually all positions on stops.
>Since the only way to impliment a stop in your system is to use a
>conditional order which resides on my computer, the order will not be
>executed when my condition is met unless your system, my computer and my
ISP
>are all working. If I am away and a power outage occurs it appears that I
>will be exposed to a major risk that does not exist if I use my online
>broker who accepts the responsibility for stops and charges a lower
>commission. Is there a solution to this serious problem.
>
>3) Do you have any studies that demonstrate your system produces better
>executions than Etrade, etc. I use Waterhouse Webbroker, cost 12.00 per
>trade. I enter positions at the market and almost always get filled at the
>current ask. I exit postions on a sell stop and only twice during the past
>year has Waterhouse failed to fill my stop at the price I specified and the
>two misses were only 1/16 off.
>
>4) There are occasions when heavy internet traffic makes it impossible to
>execute trades quickly via Waterhouse. And occasionally the price of a
>stock I am interested in moves against me as I wait for the trading screens
>to load. Does this type of delay occur on your system as well?
>
>I received an answer from a Cybercorp sales rep that was pure gobbledegook.
>He basically said to call him and he would answer all my questions.
>
>Has anybody used CyberTrader or CyberX who can compare that type of system
>to a regular online broker and comment on my questions. I am not a
>daytrader. 10 trades a months would be about my speed.
>
>Thanks for any input.
>
>Bill Wood
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sigstroker@xxxxxxx [mailto:Sigstroker@xxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 8:16 PM
>> To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Tradecast
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/3/99 6:29:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> Perthuis@xxxxxxx
>> writes:
>>
>> > I have looked at Tradecast and CyBerTrader. I like CyBer
>> better but really
>> > like Real Tick. It seems to have everything the other two
>> have and more.
>> > CyBer can sometimes have a lot more marketing savvy and use the same
>> > standard
>> > Real Tick ideas just with a fancy name.
>>
>> I disagree. Cyber has a number of features that rt3 lacks - new
>> daily and 52
>> week highs, stop orders on nasdaq, floating stop loss orders, ecn
>> highlights
>> on Level 2, and more. OTOH, rt3 has been around a lot longer, so has more
>> support from 3rd party software suppliers.
>>
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