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Doug,
Hey! Hey! An intelligent AND a mature person on the list. A rarity. Your so
calm and collected------ you must be trading Eurodollars. Yok! AMA
Doug Forman wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Been daytrading since 1995, started with TS 3.x, lived through the nightmare
> of 4.x, now living through the nightmare of 2000i. If I were dependent upon
> using *ONLY* Omega products, I'd feel panic. Fortunately, I also have other
> tools which I use to trade (as well as TS). I suspect this is also true for
> others on this list.
>
> Like many others, I traded as a "hobby" until I was profitable enough to
> trade for a living (which I do now, trading more than my own account). I
> realize you could not have known this, since you don't know me and never
> asked...
>
> There is rarely a legitimate and productive reason for crudeness, rudeness,
> or childish tantrums amongst professionals. If there's a real legitimate
> problem (with ANY product or vendor), pursue it through proper channels...
> including legal ones if appropriate. But whailing and moaning about one's
> self-inflicted injury serves only to draw attention to oneself, and not to
> the issue.
>
> Last I checked, no one is required to purchase Omega products, and I have
> yet to read about anyone that is dissatisfied with Omega products that has
> not received their money back (or an extension of their
> money-back-guarantee) when requested.
>
> Do I depend upon TS2000i to make a living? Are you kidding? I do partially
> depend on TS40, but could live without it if needed. Diversification is
> good in trading tools as well as in the market :-)
>
> Trade well, Robert...
>
> Doug
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert W Cummings [mailto:robert.cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >
> > Dick and Doug you both should just ignore "Mark Brown" and buy TSi. Then
> > when the bugs start costing you real money you both can write your nice
> > polite letters to Omega. When you compliant falls on deaf ears and if
> > trading is your living not a hobby lets see how polite you are then.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 03:59 PM 4/21/1999 -0700, Doug Forman wrote:
> > >Thanks for making several excellent points, Dick. I think your
> > thoughts are
> > >lucid and well stated. I agree...
> > >
> > >Having followed this list quietly for a couple years, I recall
> > Mark making
> > >several meaningful posts to this list in the past. Unfortunately, I
> > >eventually found it necessary to implement a "Mark Brown" filter
> > on incoming
> > >email so I would not be continuously exposed to the vulgarity and general
> > >unhappiness he expresses. Others have indicated to me that they
> > have done
> > >likewise.
> > >
> > >Mark, if you're listening, be aware that the style of your messages is
> > >probably damaging the credibility of their content.
> > >
> > >Dick, thanks again for saying what I was thinking!
> > >
> > >Doug
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Dick Smith [mailto:Dick@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 5:18 PM
> > >> To: Mark Brown; Omega List; Chris Baker
> > >> Subject: Re: Omega Record Revenues And 51% Increase In Income
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dear Mark;
> > >>
> > >> Though I certainly am no lawyer, I'm would never be willing to take the
> > >> liability risks associated with setting up a web site (or
> > >> publishing in any
> > >> way) comments adverse to Omega Research's products, regardless
> > how good or
> > >> bad they may be. Worse still is the hostile, inflammatory
> > language that
> > >> appears in these e-mails and on the web site coupled with threats
> > >> like words
> > >> to the effect that he is nowhere near through citing all the
> > bugs in the
> > >> Omega Research applications.
> > >>
> > >> If you hope to see any bugs that may exist in 2000i or
> > whatever of their
> > >> applications corrected. That is NOT the way to go about it.
> > It IS a good
> > >> way to wind up sitting at the defense table in civil action which Omega
> > >> Research is probably better situated to pursue financially than the
> > >> defendant.
> > >>
> > >> If you want to get the problems resolved, the best way to go
> > >> about it is to
> > >> clearly identify the problems in writing WITHOUT ANY hostile,
> > heated, or
> > >> inflammatory language. Just basically explain what happens or
> > >> what's wrong
> > >> with the program and what ill effect or hardship that causes you. Of
> > >> course, you should respectfully urge the addressee to have the
> > problem or
> > >> problems repaired at the earliest possible moment. And, very
> > important, I
> > >> cannot express strongly enough the need to address such
> > correspondence to
> > >> the President or Chief Executive Officer, whoever that may be
> > BY NAME. If
> > >> you don't know the name, FIND OUT. It's as easy to do as a
> > >> simple phone to
> > >> the research desk of your local library. Find out their name AND THEIR
> > >> mailing address (which are often different from the company's
> > offices and
> > >> plants. If you elect to fax your correspondence, it's worth a
> > >> call to their
> > >> office beforehand to get that person's individual fax number.
> > >> Faxes of this
> > >> nature sent to the main fax number may never see the CEO's desk or even
> > >> his/her waste basket.
> > >>
> > >> I am not trying to delude you into believing that your
> > correspondence will
> > >> actually reach the CEO. But, if properly sent and
> > respectfully worded, it
> > >> WILL fall into the hands of a CEO's assistant or a VP who can and most
> > >> likely will deal with the problem, hopefully in a way that benefits
> > >> everyone.
> > >>
> > >> As for the bugs web site? I'd delete that in a New York minute.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> With kindest regards,
> > >>
> > >> Dick Smith
> > >> Dick@xxxxxxxxxx
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Mark Brown <markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: Omega List <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; Chris Baker
> > <chrisbak@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 12:13 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: Omega Record Revenues And 51% Increase In Income
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > well I just emailed this company BancBoston info@xxxxxxxx
> > >> and told them
> > >> > about the Bug Report 2000 web site that has been placed in
> > every search
> > >> > engine on the internet.
> > >> >
> > >> > I also told them that they didn't know jack about Omega and its
> > >> customers
> > >> or
> > >> > they would have down graded it.
> > >> >
> > >> > mb
> > >> >
> > >> > World Famous Bug Report 2000 >
> > >http://www.markbrown.com/BugReport2000.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Today BancBoston anlayst Jon Ekoniak (Robertson Stephens)
> > upgraded Omega
> > >> Research to a long-term attractive rating, from market perform.
> > >> >
> > >> > Perhaps Robertson Stephens should be made aware of TS 2000's being
> > >> released with numerous problems, and Omega's ongoing refusal
> > to admit to
> > >any
> > >> bugs in TS 2000.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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