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I think automatic renewal of any annual contract like that is wrong but I
think the DBC contract is even more egregious. I will say that when I did my
DTN contract and attached an addendum with a couple of reasonable
termination provisions (right to cancel for continuous loss of feed and/or
unable to forced removal of satellite dish), they had no problem accepting
it. Nor did I have any problem when I ultimately had to invoke the clause
after my HOA forced me to remove the dish and the cable company dropped the
CSPAN2 feed.
Earl
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert W Cummings <robert.cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Earl Adamy <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, March 13, 1999 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: DTN
>W A R N I N G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>DTN has great customer service and is a good data source. B U
T!!!!!!!!!!!1
>I do have one bone to pick with DTN concerning their data consumer
>contracts. Earl that is a slease contract stating that you must cancel the
>contract at a certain time before the end of the term period or it renews.
>That's BS and DTN enforces this righteously. Don't come back and say that's
>just industry policy its a cheap trick. Lose that contract give people a
>chance to forget or give verbal notice so its not some big surprise. That's
>a shameful disgusting policy DTN has because its just plain crooked using
>the law in this manner.
>I will keep reminding people of this everytime theres a post about DTN.
>
>Robert
>
>
>
> Earl Adamy wrote:
>>I hadn't checked in a while but the DTNIQ page said futures would be
>>available about first of year and at the time I interpreted that to mean
>>around January 1999.
>>
>>Regarding shortcomings of Signal OnLine, not too hard to find. Start with
a
>>customer be-damned corporate attitude diametrically opposed to the
attitudes
>>I experienced at DTN. Next, delayed data is not available for those
>>exchanges to which one does not subscribe on a real-time basis. Finally,
the
>>pricing of SOL, like all other DBC products is about twice what the
>>competition charges.
>>
>>I started with satellite, switched to cable, and finally to internet. My
>>experience has been that internet delivery _can_ be faster than cable and
>>satellite. I have found that prices/bid/ask on free CME globex feed
>>generally lead both satellite and cable. Ditto for the prices/bid/ask on
the
>>Timberhill workstation. Limited comparisons suggest that Signal OnLine is
>>generally slightly ahead of satellite. IMO, the problem with internet
>>delivery is not speed but reliability: lost connections and lost packets
and
>>that situation will continue to improve as the internet matures and local
>>infrastructure is upgraded. Ensign addresses the reliability issue with
the
>>ability to obtain tick infill for up to 3 days via the SOL Data Manager
and
>>while not perfect it goes a long way toward solving the issues of
>>lost/missing data. The data feed at Quote.Com goes even further by
providing
>>on-demand availability of intraday/daily/weekly/monthly bars. While I'm
not
>>(yet) a Quote.Com customer, I think this model where the trader has no
need
>>to manage data locally, is the future.
>>
>>Last year when evaluating feeds and software, Linn/RT was among the first
>>packages I tried because it supported the two feeds in which I had the
>>greatest interest: PCQuote (internet) and DTN. At the time, Linn/RT had a
>>great many quirks which made understanding and use of the software
>>counter-intuitive which led me to look further and ultimately on to
Ensign.
>>
>>Earl
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Kevin Lee <dtninfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>Cc: eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 8:17 PM
>>Subject: re: DTN
>>
>>
>>>potential and security features that we would require. Currently DTN IQ
>>>still does not offer futures quotes, though I am sure that issue is being
>>>looked at as well. But from what I understand about DTN IQ's structure,
it
>>>is doubtful that will ever be anything but a true proprietary platform.
>>
>>
>>>On a side note, while I welcome anyone to choose our internet service
over
>>>a competitor's...I'm not sure I understand what the advantage would be
for
>>>you to switch to a DTN internet fed Ensign vs. your Signal online.
>>>Understand that we are talking hypothetically since we do not currently
>>>feed Ensign over the internet. What are the shortcomings of your current
>>>set up? Maybe I just don't know the competitor's product well enough,
but
>>>there probably wouldn't be a huge price difference. The nature of
internet
>>>data is such that speed and quality are much less of an issue, in my
>>>opinion there is no way that internet can compete with satellite/cable.
I
>>>really would appreciate your feed back on this. I run into more and more
>>>customers every day who are willing to compromise price and quality for
>>>internet convenience. I do understand that many people don't have any
>>>other choice but internet data, but even those who can have a dish or
cable
>>>access will still choose internet. I look forward to hearing more on
this.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Kevin Lee/DTN
>>>
>>>PS As far as 32 bit Ensign goes, I and others at DTN are well up to speed
>>>on it's capabilities. Almost every DTN I sell gets partnered with Ensign
>>>32. It is the software that I use in my own trading. Whenever I do a
>>>demo, or when I am at a trade show chances are that Ensign is what will
be
>>>running on my laptop. I also like Investor RT from LinnSoft, but I have
>>>much more experience with Ensign.
>>
>>
>>
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