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Gerrit,
Read below and you will see that in fact you are being requested to pay
1000.00 to be a Beta tester!
There is a fee for a final product and a fee to be a beta tester both are
below, I have inverted them making the fee for the beta at the top of the
page. And the fee for the product at the bottom. His product includes no
server, so basically what you are paying for is a charting package. Which
brings me to another point: if you go and see the product Olectra Active X
charting you will see what Bob is planning on selling you.
http://www.klg.com/ I am beginning to doubt that Bob has even written a
program! If you have ever seen him type on a keyboard as I have you would
have your doubts too. Read below what one other person says about Bobs
charting package.
Mark Brown
TradeLab seems to be a great product with good charting capabilities. It
seems that TradeLab uses Olectra Chart plotting package (www.klg.com). All
potential future users of TradeLab should have a look at it and download the
demo from the web site. TradeLab will probably have most of the
functionality's of the Olectra Chart demo. The demo includes, real-time
plotting, 3D, candlesticks etc ... with lots of source code example in VB,
C++ and Delphi.
I have built an ActiveX server to crunch numbers and a visualization
interface with olectra chart to see the real time calculation. This product
is very good and has impressive features. You can use it as OCX control or
DLLs and use it in VB, C++ and Delphi (and probably more languages). Sample
code comes with the demo. When I first used it, in less than an hour I
could plot 100,000 candlesticks with few indicators, scrolling bars etc ...
(I used the demo files to help me started).
On the first TradeLab web site most of the charts put on the site came
straight from the demo of Olectra Chart. Olectra Chart is a great tools, you
can do 2D, 3D, 4D graphs, rotate the graphs, scale them, etc ... check
their web site. The features are very impressive and there are no limitation
on the number of bars, candlesticks etc ... I hope that viewing the olectra
chart demo will help potential TradeLab users to see the potential TradeLab
charting capabilities. Bob made a great choice when choosing this package as
the main charting engine.
Good trading.
Regards,
Fabrice Gras
(PhD Maths/Stats)
Gerrit
Look Bob Brickey is one of the slickest guys I have run across. He first
misleads us into thinking that we would have a product release prior to the
Utah Trip "which we didn't"! He then hypes up the Utah training class as
something it isn't! He and especially Dorretta treats us like SHIT when we
"ALL - not just me" complain that class is not on subject and as it was
represented! He then lies about the beta 1 see below, beta 1 is a term now
created by Bob after my exposing him for lying about having beta testers.
One of the most well respected participants (not me) of the Utah class wrote
me personally and told me he had been selected by Bob to be a beta tester.
I kept in touch and he NEVER ever received a beta! Bob kept telling him of
problems with this and problems with that. Well he never got it, so all the
while Bob Brickey kept telling us all that the beta testing was going as
planned ect. I then got suspicious and contacted all of the participants
that were at Utah. None "including the only person who I know of that ever
claimed to have been personally invited by Bob to be a beta tester" of the
participants had a beta! Now doesn't that seem strange? So I expose this
and Bob still claims that this beta is taking place. Bob knew full well
that all of us at Utah were sorely disappointed. Have you seen ANYONE
??????? Who was also there come to Bob's defense ??????? I have invited a
second opinion and have never seen one different that what I have said. In
fact there were other post on the TradeLab list from attendees supporting
what I say. So if you weren't there you have really no grasp of how bad the
whole affair was.
Mark Brown
Jim,
Perhaps I am the thick one. Mark claims that you have to commit yourself to
buy the product before you become a tradelab beta-tester.
However I cannot read this from Bob's statement. So far I can see there is
nothing to pay for the beta unless you finally want the
full product. Perhaps Mark can explain how he came to his conclusion that
Bob is holding potential beta-testers for ransom. Or even
better: Bob could elaborate on his beta pricing policy.
I find this point rather important since Mark's comments on Bob's character
seems to be based on this interpretation.
Gerrit Jacobsen
Gerrit
Gerrit, you are WRONG I am basing my opinions on Bob Brickeys performance or
rather a lack of! Also please examine very carefully the below pricing
structure for the serverless TradLab/Olectra charting package....
Mark Brown
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Bob writes the below, is this not a charge prior to the final release????
As stated before, much more testing needs to be done before the final
product is released. We need testers to do that. Because we need their
help, those willing to test will receive the following special
consideration:
1. The initial license fee will be discounted $750, making it
only $1000.
2. Testers will receive technical support during the test period
on the TLBeta list. However, quarterly license fees will not
begin until the final product is released.
3. Testers will have the opportunity to be part of an on-going
engineering advisory group that will recommend improvements
for new releases.
4. Testers will receive advance information about changes in new
releases and they will be given the opportunity to test and
evaluate new releases before they are released to other users.
A Beta Test application form has been posted at:
http://www.sciapp.com/tradelab/beta.html
It asks questions that will help us determine how the services of those
interested can be best utilized. (Those who know Visual Basic well are
better suited to testing user programming, for instance, while others can
be more productive focusing on other aspects of the product, etc.)
Everyone interested should submit that from, whether they already are on
our list of testers or not, so we can have the benefit of that information
in making decisions.
Applications will be accepted on the basis stated above through Monday,
February 15th. Software will ship Friday, February 19th, to those who
apply and are accepted by that date.
The testers will perform a function that will be very important to the
success of the product and to its value to other users. They will be
trusted with certain inside information. Because of that, we reserve the
right to exclude anyone we think is unqualified to serve in that capacity.
Supplemental Information Mentioned Above
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The supplemental information about the mail lists and beta testing that
was mentioned above will be posted at various times over the next few
days. We wanted everyone to read this, before reading that information,
so it would be in proper context.
-Bob Brickey
Scientific Approaches
sci@xxxxxxxxxx
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