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Re: Two questions ....



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Hmm, so what is the difference between Close and Settle? Was the problem due
to Settle being two ticks below Close or a software bug? Inquiring minds
want to know.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Brown <markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Dejan Corovic <Dejan.Corovic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Omega-List Forum
<omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Two questions ....


>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I hope that somebody can enlight me on the following two issues:
>>
>>1. What is the difference between the 'Close' and 'Settle' price?
>>   How is 'Close' price actually arrived at?
>
>
>I'll enjoy answering this one.  If you have a system that generates a buy
on
>close.  And that close was the Friday of Super Bowl Sunday and you had a
>Bond model that gave you a buy on that close you would have learned what I
>have learned about all of this.  I knew that I was getting close to a buy
on
>the bonds that Friday and I did some calculations and I was definitely
going
>to get a buy on the close of the bonds.  So just prior to the close of the
>bonds I went in and got long.  Sure enough when the bonds closed Friday I
>did get a buy arrow that poped up just as predicted.  So the other markets
>closed and we all went home for the weekend.  Weekend over they notice the
>power had gone off in the building, they called me, I decided to stay home
>that day.  They said hey the buy arrow on the bonds is missing on the Ned
>Davis system and the TS.  I said no way, I still have mine.  Now this
>wouldn't have been so important but the bonds had crashed and we were in a
>world of hurt.  So I rolled out of bed and crawled to my trading room and
>there I had a multitude of monitors all showing buy arrow still there from
>the previous Friday close.  With me so far?  OK I'm telling them at work
>your nuts and your all kidding me, they claim no.  So I noticed that the
>bonds had settled lower than they had closed buy I think two ticks.   I got
>to thinking, they told me the power went off so I emulated that by closing
>charting in Omega TS and leaving the server running.  WELL! to my surprise
>no buy arrow appeared any more!  It had disappeared just like they had all
>told me, I couldn't believe that our other software product had given the
>exact same results.  So moral is from now on if we get a signal on the
>closing bar of the day on a system we wait for the settlement and them
close
>and reopen to make sure its a valid system signal.  If it is on the close
of
>a Friday we wait for Sunday night trading to place the order.  That is the
>policy now in place.  That lesson cost me about 18% this year on that one
>model, if it weren't such a good system I'd been doomed this year from that
>one trade.  I will also comment you only find these things out when you are
>actually using the program to trade and you have money riding on the
>software, then and only then does every little detail about the software
>matter so much to you.  MB
>