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RE: Cheating on Stops



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>Unfortunately I do NEVER trust (anyone <g>) my datafeed (DBC / 
>Eutelsat) 100% and it might have been a misprint or missed ticks, so 
>had to wait for next days T&S on the CME website - checked it and my 
>feed was 100% correct - so called + explained - they said they 
>"investigate" - I knew there was NOTHING else they can do but to 
>credit me the difference - they called back, said the fill was 
>(however) at the price where they reported, but I was entiteled the 
>difference and they credit $$$ to my account - not to forget they 
>gave ME shit for coming back only next day - thanks.........
>
>it happenend another time - same story - some recredit - same SHIT TO 
>ME - I was VERY happy - but obviouly now they realized that I watch 
>out.....so had to be more carefull
>
>next 2 stops the market ran about 300 points without any reverse, I 
>was READY to expect the WORST (aswell this gives every broker BIG 
>leeway) - and guess what : I was filled AT my price......BRILLIANT 
>(but suprised BIG TIME)
>
>then the final trade came: I had a STOP to SELL at xx1.80 - the 
>market traded through the stop to xx1.40 so the stop has been WELL 
>triggered without any doubt - market reversed and seconds later 
>around xx2.50 one of the guys calles and said they were UNABLE and 
>Im still long (implementing that they are doing me a favour) - as I 
>wanted to get out, I sold MARKET, about 100 points better than the 
>worst fill - I asked him how that happened (obviously that was 
>positive in $ terms), he said they're guys in the pit saw couple of 
>bids coming in and decided not to fill it - obviously they could only 
>SEE that at 0.40 worse than my STOP price and that gamble leads to 
>the other worse fills from before.
>
>Looks like *they* decide whether a stop was any good or not and 
>probably in most cases, where customers didnt complain, filled it to 
>the worse (not to suggest they made some $$$ out of it). 
>


I think this is the problem with open outcry system which I heavily favor
using electronic pit transaction just like the Globex & others.

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			Visavis 
			Visavis@xxxxxxx

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