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Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula



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Hi Peter:

Same question (#2) as Alvin. Also, this is a naive question, but how
do I use the trigger as an indicator?

Thanks,

Rajiv


On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Alvin Yu <alvinyu2005@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Peter
>
>     1) Tried your formula .The indicator is good  but the Trigger show a lag
> of about 3 bars ie the trigger comes 3 bars earlier than the peak of the
> Fisher indicator .(I used period 8 for both) .Any solution ?
>
>     2) How to I apply the trigger in Expert Advisor  and Explorer formulas
> writing ?
>
>     Appreciate your feedback
>
> rgds
>
> ________________________________
> From: Pete Lieber <plieber@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: EquisMetastock <equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, 22 May 2009 8:53:21
> Subject: RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula [1 Attachment]
>
> Attached is a daily chart of the QQQQ upon which is an 8-period Fisher
> indicator (in RED) and an 8-period RSI (in BLUE).   Both indicators have
> their advantages.  Typically the RSI gives a buy when it crosses above 30
> and a sell when it crosses below 70.  The Fisher indicator signals come from
> crossing above or below zero or a trigger (Periods * Roc(Fml("Fisher
> Yur4ik"), 1, %), where periods equals the period number in he Fisher
> indicator.
>
> As you can see the Fisher indicator is smoother and therefore less likely to
> jump back and forth (i.e., whipsaw) over a buy/sell point.  On the other
> hand te RSI because it has more exteme buy/sell points than Fisher (70/30 vs
> 0) it generally gives a signal quicker.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com
> From: krochey@xxxxxxxx com.sg
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:41:39 -0700
> Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula
>
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
> Is it possible to add a screenshot of a chart example with the indicator.
> Many Thanks
>
>
> Kishore Rochey
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pete Lieber
> To: EquisMetastock
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:20 AM
> Subject: RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula
> The Fisher Yur4ik formula gives an oscillator type indicator that turns
> quicker and more sharply than traditional oscillators such as RSI and MACD.
> Some people will plot the following formula as a trigger for the Fisher
> Yur4ik indicator:
>
> Fisher Yur4ik Trigger
>
> Periods:= input("Periods" ,2,200,10) ; {the number of Periods in the Trigger
> should equal the number in the Fisher Yur4ik Indicator}
>
> Periods * Roc(Fml("Fisher Yur4ik"),1,% )
>
>
> By the way here's how I write the Fisher Yur4ik indicator
>
> Fisher Yur4ik
>
> Periods:= Input("Periods" , 2,200,10);
> Pr:= ((H+L)/2);
>
> MaxH:= HHV(Pr, Periods);
> MinL:= LLV(Pr, Periods);
>
> Value1:= .5*2*((Pr - MinL)/(MaxH - MinL) - .5) + .5* PREV;
>
> Fish:= 0.25*Log((1 + If( Value1 > .9999, .9999,
> If( Value1 < -.9999, -.9999, value1)) )/(1 - If( Value1 > .9999, .9999,
> If( Value1 < -.9999, -.9999, value1)))) + .5*PREV;
> Fish;
>
>
> Don't get too excited over this indicator.  Like most indicators it has its
> advantages and disadvantages.
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com
> From: bobwaits2@xxxxxx com
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:41:44 -0700
> Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula
>
>
>
> How do you use the Fisher Yur4ik indicator?
>
> --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Gelo Gelo <gelobr@xxxxxx com> wrote:
>
> From: Gelo Gelo <gelobr@xxxxxx com>
> Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula
> To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 4:33 PM
>
>
>
> Thanks Ticiano and Roy for help! When you get home I will test this formula.
> One day (who knows...rs) I hope to help others, as you did to me.
>
> Regards,
> Gelo
>
> 2009/5/19 Roy Larsen <rlarsen@xxxxx co.nz>
>
>
>
> Hi Ticiano
>
>
> You're right in a way - PREV is always a puzzle that needs to be solved if a
> solution is possible. With this formula I have the advantage of having seen
> the solution a number of times before, and so I'm showing you the answer
> sheet that I originally copied from Ross Kovacs (thanks Ross).
>
>
> Regards
>
> Roy
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ticiano Rêgo
> To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula
>
> Hi Roy !
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> I feel that always when you see a PREV statement it´s like a puzzle that you
> have to solve.
>
> Congratulations !
>
> Regards,
>
> Ticiano
>
>
> 2009/5/19 Roy Larsen <rlarsen@xxxxx co.nz>
>
>
>
> Hi Ticiano
>
>
> If your code is right, and I suspect it is, then the PREV lines are both
> exponential moving averages and the revised formula below will execute much
> faster with PREV removed. The values appear to be slightly off and this is
> accounted for by 0.33 and 0..67 factors in the original formula being closer
> to 0.33333 and 0.66667 when the Mov() function is used to generate the EMA.
> Wilders() with Periods values of 3 and 2 respectively would return the same
> values as Mov()
>
> pr:=(H+L)/2;
> len:=8;
> maxh:=HHV(pr, len);
> minl:=LLV(pr, len);
> val1:=Mov(2* ((pr-minl) /(maxh-minl) -.5),5,E) ;
> value1:=If(val1>.99,.999,If( val1<-.99,-.999,val1) );
> fish:=Mov(Log( (1+value1) /(1-value1) ),3,E);
> fish;
>
>
> Regards
>
> Roy
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ticiano Rêgo
> To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula
>
> Hello Gelo,
>
> Problably this will help you:
>
>
> pr:=(H+L)/2;
> len:=8;
> maxh:=HHV(pr, len);
> minl:=LLV(pr, len);
> val1:=.33*2* ((pr-minl) /(maxh-minl) -.5)+.67* PREV;
> value1:=If(val1>.99,.999,If( val1<-.99,-.999,val1) );
> fish:=.5*Log( (1+value1) /(1-value1) )+.5*PREV;
> fish;
>
>
> I don´t know if this is the one that you want.
>
>
>
> Abraços,
>
> Ticiano Rêgo
>
> 2009/5/19 Gelo Gelo <gelobr@xxxxxx com>
>
> [Attachment(s) from Gelo Gelo included below]
>
>
> Hello everybody!
>
> I'm "new" here. I made my registration for some time, but I was just looking
> to learn something ...until now. So let me first, introduce myself...
>
> I'm from Brazil and started to negotiate stocks a few months ago. Also
> started to use Metastock and Metatrader a few months, and I still can not
> understand the language of these programs. So I need some help...
>
> I'm trying to transform an indicator from Metatrader to Metastock.. The
> indicator is "Fisher Yur4ik". The formula of this indicator is in the file
> attached below.
>
> I hope someone can help me.
>
> Regards,
> Gelo
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Rajiv
Sent from Baltimore, Maryland, United States


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