Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula, MetaStock Email Archive

Hi Peter

Thks for your feedback

rgds

AlvinYu

From: Pete Lieber <plieber@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: EquisMetastock <equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2009 8:54:56
Subject: RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula

Like I said I don't think much of the indicator. But if you really want to use it and you're worried about the lag you can try something like this.

If(ref(Fml(" Fisher Yur4ik"),-1) > Fml("Fisher Yur4ik Trigger") and Fml("Fisher Yur4ik") < ref(Fml("Fisher Yur4ik"),-1) , -1,
If(ref(Fml(" Fisher Yur4ik"),-1) < Fml("Fisher Yur4ik Trigger") and Fml("Fisher Yur4ik") > ref(Fml("Fisher Yur4ik"),-1) , 1, 0)

or use Bollinger Bands on the indicator, sell when the indicator crosses below the upper band and buy when the indicator crosses above the lower band.

If I really liked the indicator well enough I'd be happy to code the Expert Advisor and Explorer, but I think it is a dead end.

However, if you can show me that the indicator has merit I'll code it.

Good luck

To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com
From: alvinyu2005@ yahoo.com. sg
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:16:31 +0800
Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula

Hi Peter

1) Tried your formula .The indicator is good but the Trigger show a lag of about 3 bars ie the trigger comes 3 bars earlier than the peak of the Fisher indicator .(I used period 8 for both) .Any solution ?

2) How to I apply the trigger in Expert Advisor and Explorer formulas writing ?

Appreciate your feedback

rgds

From: Pete Lieber <plieber@xxxxxxxxxxx net>
To: EquisMetastock <equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Friday, 22 May 2009 8:53:21
Subject: RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula [1 Attachment]

Attached is a daily chart of the QQQQ upon which is an 8-period Fisher indicator (in RED) and an 8-period RSI (in BLUE). Both indicators have their advantages. Typically the RSI gives a buy when it crosses above 30 and a sell when it crosses below 70. The Fisher indicator signals come from crossing above or below zero or a trigger (Periods * Roc(Fml("Fisher Yur4ik"), 1, %), where periods equals the period number in he Fisher indicator.

As you can see the Fisher indicator is smoother and therefore less likely to jump back and forth (i.e., whipsaw) over a buy/sell point. On the other hand te RSI because it has more exteme buy/sell points than Fisher (70/30 vs 0) it generally gives a signal quicker.

To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com
From: krochey@xxxxxxxx com.sg
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:41:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula

Is it possible to add a screenshot of a chart example with the indicator.

Many Thanks

Kishore Rochey

----- Original Message -----

From: Pete Lieber

To: EquisMetastock

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:20 AM

Subject: RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula

The Fisher Yur4ik formula gives an oscillator type indicator that turns quicker and more sharply than traditional oscillators such as RSI and MACD. Some people will plot the following formula as a trigger for the Fisher Yur4ik indicator:

Fisher Yur4ik Trigger

Periods:= input("Periods" ,2,200,10) ; {the number of Periods in the Trigger should equal the number in the Fisher Yur4ik Indicator}

Periods * Roc(Fml("Fisher Yur4ik"),1,% )

By the way here's how I write the Fisher Yur4ik indicator

Fisher Yur4ik

Periods:= Input("Periods" , 2,200,10);
Pr:= ((H+L)/2);

MaxH:= HHV(Pr, Periods);
MinL:= LLV(Pr, Periods);

Value1:= .5*2*((Pr - MinL)/(MaxH - MinL) - .5) + .5* PREV;

Fish:= 0.25*Log((1 + If( Value1 > .9999, .9999,
If( Value1 < -.9999, -.9999, value1)) )/(1 - If( Value1 > .9999, .9999,
If( Value1 < -.9999, -.9999, value1)))) + .5*PREV;
Fish;

Don't get too excited over this indicator. Like most indicators it has its advantages and disadvantages.

To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com
From: bobwaits2@xxxxxx com
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:41:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula

How do you use the Fisher Yur4ik indicator?

--- On Wed, 5/20/09, Gelo Gelo <gelobr@xxxxxx com> wrote:

From: Gelo Gelo <gelobr@xxxxxx com>
Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula
To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 4:33 PM

Thanks Ticiano and Roy for help! When you get home I will test this formula.

One day (who knows...rs) I hope to help others, as you did to me.

Regards,

Gelo

2009/5/19 Roy Larsen <rlarsen@xxxxx co.nz>

Hi Ticiano

You're right in a way - PREV is always a puzzle that needs to be solved if a solution is possible. With this formula I have the advantage of having seen the solution a number of times before, and so I'm showing you the answer sheet that I originally copied from Ross Kovacs (thanks Ross).

Regards

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: Ticiano Rêgo

To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula

Hi Roy !

Thanks a lot.

I feel that always when you see a PREV statement it´s like a puzzle that you have to solve.

Congratulations !

Regards,

Ticiano

2009/5/19 Roy Larsen <rlarsen@xxxxx co.nz>

Hi Ticiano

If your code is right, and I suspect it is, then the PREV lines are both exponential moving averages and the revised formula below will execute much faster with PREV removed. The values appear to be slightly off and this is accounted for by 0.33 and 0..67 factors in the original formula being closer to 0.33333 and 0.66667 when the Mov() function is used to generate the EMA. Wilders() with Periods values of 3 and 2 respectively would return the same values as Mov()

pr:=(H+L)/2;
len:=8;
maxh:=HHV(pr, len);
minl:=LLV(pr, len);
val1:=Mov(2* ((pr-minl) /(maxh-minl) -.5),5,E) ;

value1:=If(val1>.99,.999,If( val1<-.99,-.999,val1) );
fish:=Mov(Log( (1+value1) /(1-value1) ),3,E);
fish;

Regards

Roy

----- Original Message -----

From: Ticiano Rêgo

To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:08 AM

Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Fisher Yur4ik formula

Hello Gelo,

Problably this will help you:

pr:=(H+L)/2;
len:=8;
maxh:=HHV(pr, len);
minl:=LLV(pr, len);
val1:=.33*2* ((pr-minl) /(maxh-minl) -.5)+.67* PREV;
value1:=If(val1>.99,.999,If( val1<-.99,-.999,val1) );
fish:=.5*Log( (1+value1) /(1-value1) )+.5*PREV;
fish;

I don´t know if this is the one that you want.

Abraços,

Ticiano Rêgo

2009/5/19 Gelo Gelo <gelobr@xxxxxx com>

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Hello everybody!

I'm "new" here. I made my registration for some time, but I was just looking to learn something ...until now. So let me first, introduce myself...

I'm from Brazil and started to negotiate stocks a few months ago. Also started to use Metastock and Metatrader a few months, and I still can not understand the language of these programs. So I need some help...

I'm trying to transform an indicator from Metatrader to Metastock.. The indicator is "Fisher Yur4ik". The formula of this indicator is in the file attached below.

I hope someone can help me.

Regards,

Gelo

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