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[EquisMetaStock Group] Re: System Tester - Zero Lag EMA Crossover with OPT



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Preston

So the exact formula for the ZLEMA(Zero Lag EMA) is as we have used 
before.

Period:= Input("What Period",1,250,10);
EMA1:= Mov(CLOSE,Period,E);
EMA2:= Mov(EMA1,Period,E);
Difference:= EMA1 - EMA2;
ZeroLagEMA:= EMA1 + Difference;
ZeroLagEMA

PAUL






--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@xxx> wrote:
>
> Paul,
> 
> Post your exact formulas for me.
> 
> Preston
> 
> 
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Paul Harris" 
> <paul_vicmar@> wrote:
> >
> > Preston
> > 
> > OK had a look and couple of points arise.
> > (ZLEMA=Zero Lag EMA)
> > The Indicator builder does not allow me to change the period 
funtion
> > in the ZLEMA formula to, in our example, "opt1".
> > 
> > The other thing:
> > "Cross(ZeroLagEMA,Mov(ZeroLagEMA,opt2,E))"
> > 
> > Whilst the first ZLEMA would be optimised, the second ZLEMA would 
be
> > an optimsed EMA of the ZLEMA.
> > Would it not be possible to create two ZLEMA formulas, ZLEMA1
(short)
> > and ZLEMA2(long). I am sure that it is possible, the trick is how 
to
> > optimise them.
> > 
> > Gracias
> > PAUL
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul,
> > > 
> > > Sure. Look at Equis - CCI +100/-100 Crossover tester and check 
> those 
> > > buy and sell tabs.
> > > 
> > > In the original formula you would cange the input value to and 
> opt# 
> > > value like this:
> > > 
> > > Period:= opt1;
> > > EMA1:= Mov(CLOSE,Period,E);
> > > EMA2:= Mov(EMA1,Period,E);
> > > Difference:= EMA1 - EMA2;
> > > ZeroLagEMA:= EMA1 + Difference;
> > > ZeroLagEMA
> > > 
> > > Then the Buy Order is:
> > > 
> > > Period:= opt1;
> > > EMA1:= Mov(CLOSE,Period,E);
> > > EMA2:= Mov(EMA1,Period,E);
> > > Difference:= EMA1 - EMA2;
> > > ZeroLagEMA:= EMA1 + Difference;
> > > ZeroLagEMA
> > > Cross(ZeroLagEMA,Mov(ZeroLagEMA,opt2,E))
> > > 
> > > Make it easy on yourself and run this with a non optimized sell 
> then 
> > > optimize the sell side.
> > > 
> > > Preston
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Paul Harris" 
> > > <paul_vicmar@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Preston
> > > > 
> > > > Thanxs for the walkthrough. I understand the logic of what 
you 
> have
> > > > done but I would prefer to optimise on the original formula 
of 
> Zero
> > > > Lag EMA instead of a moving average of Zero Lag EMA.
> > > > The original formula that we have been using is the 
following :
> > > > 
> > > > Period:= Input("What Period",1,250,10);
> > > > EMA1:= Mov(CLOSE,Period,E);
> > > > EMA2:= Mov(EMA1,Period,E);
> > > > Difference:= EMA1 - EMA2;
> > > > ZeroLagEMA:= EMA1 + Difference;
> > > > ZeroLagEMA
> > > > 
> > > > I understand that the "mov" function will allow you to only 
use 
> the
> > > > moving averages listed in Metastock i.e EXP, SIM, WEI, etc 
and 
> not 
> > > in
> > > > this case our Zero Lag EMA so would it be possible to use 
> > > the "cross"
> > > > function. So that the logic would be:
> > > > Buy when the optimised Zero Lag EMA(shorter)crosses over the 
> > > optimised
> > > > Zero Lag EMA(longer). And conversely sell when the longer 
> crosses 
> > > the
> > > > shorter.
> > > > 
> > > > Yours
> > > > PAUL
> > > > 
> > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Let's see if we can provide some recap information for 
anyone 
> > > else 
> > > > > wishing to take part in this. The indicators were listed by 
> you 
> > > in 
> > > > > message 24953.
> > > > > 
> > > > > As I remember we had several indicators from which to take 
> > > signals. We 
> > > > > had a MACD that we made using the ZeroLag EMA and we also 
> took 
> > > the 
> > > > > ZeroLag MACD and normalized it. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now we want to do an exploration and optimize some values 
to 
> see 
> > > what 
> > > > > performs best.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This was always a lot of fun but also consumed large 
amounts 
> of 
> > > time. 
> > > > > Even so you have to walk through it just to see how it 
works. 
> > > > > Optimization is not widely favored, so just realize that 
> there 
> > > are a 
> > > > > lot of critics out there. There are no hardened rules to 
> > > optimizing as 
> > > > > any value is fair game but just realize that it is far 
better 
> to 
> > > run 
> > > > > your test on a smaller number of values and if you have to 
> run 
> > > your 
> > > > > test several times thats quite alright.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You have chosen the ZeroLag EMA and a moving average 
> crossover. 
> > > Easy 
> > > > > enough. First go into the system tester and first thing you 
> > > notice is 
> > > > > that there already are some test included. Let's take a 
look 
> at 
> > > the 
> > > > > Equis-moving average crossover...open it. Open the Buy 
Order 
> > > tag. What 
> > > > > you will see is:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mov(C,opt1,E) > Mov(C,opt2,E)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Next click on the Optimizations tag and look at the values 
> > > assigned 
> > > > > for opt1 and opt2.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In order to use the Zero Lag EMA all you will need to do is 
> > > replace 
> > > > > the Close or C with an assigned variable for the fml("Zero 
> Lag 
> > > EMA").
> > > > > Like this:
> > > > > 
> > > > > A:= fml("Zero Lag EMA");
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now just reference it in your system test. Like this:
> > > > > 
> > > > > A:= fml("Zero Lag EMA");
> > > > > A > Mov(A,opt1,E)
> > > > > 
> > > > > This will leave the original formula intact and you will be 
> > > optimizing 
> > > > > on the moving average of it. If you want to optimize the 
> > > original 
> > > > > formula you must include it in your test formula instead of 
> just 
> > > the 
> > > > > fml call variable. Notice in the example above that all we 
> did 
> > > was 
> > > > > place an opt# where a numeric value would normally go.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I would be careful about over-optimizing though. The 
results 
> are 
> > > > > really going to be the result of how well the formula 
> performs 
> > > on a 
> > > > > particular stock or group of stocks during a particular 
> period 
> > > of time 
> > > > > and may not be an indication of how well future performance 
> can 
> > > be 
> > > > > determined. Best to try the test on stocks of varying 
> > > performance and 
> > > > > use those as a benchmark. This is really where most 
criticism 
> > > comes 
> > > > > from.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That should get you going, Let us know how it goes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Preston  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > >    
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Paul Harris" 
> > > <paul_vicmar@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some weeks ago Preston and I worked on an exploration and 
> > > expert
> > > > > > advisor for a Zero Lag MACD.
> > > > > > So I was looking at using a Zero Lag EMA in a system 
test, 
> > > similar to
> > > > > > a MA crossover. My only problem is that I want to use the 
> > > optimiser 
> > > > > to
> > > > > > find the best time periods for Zero Lag EMA and I don´t 
> know 
> > > how to 
> > > > > do it.
> > > > > > I know I have to indentify the Zero Lag EMA as fml("Zero 
> Lag 
> > > EMA")but
> > > > > > then how can I introduce the opt1 function?
> > > > > > Some help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > > Thanxs
> > > > > > PAUL
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




 
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