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[EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Trend Following



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Yes, you can create a .dll to implement any of these in MS.  HOWEVER,
the develer kit is $300.00, then you have to buy a programming
language like C++ or whatever which runs $100 to $1000 depending on
your favorite flavor.

Once you have spent the $$$, then you need to learn the language.  I
suggested in my reply that other programs, like AmiBroker ($149.00)
allow you to do this with their native built-in language.  And you
will find that AB is VERY similar to MS-FL, except that has much more
functionality.

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--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v" <entinv@xxxx> wrote:
> Is it possible to use Metastock DLL plug-in to develop all these?
> 
> Regards,
>    Vladimir
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ed Hoopes
>   Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 12:30 PM
>   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Trend Following
> 
> 
>   The problem that you are trying to solve is to extract some
>   information (trend) from a noisy signal.  My experience ( which comes
>   from chemical process control and stock trading ) is that the simplest
>   SMA or EMA will extract about 85% of the information content from a
>   noisy signal.  So the improvements you seek by going to more exotic
>   calculations will not improve things very much.
> 
>   My goals for trenders, are:
>        Fast response to trend changes
>        Low rate of whipsaws
>   As you can see, these tend to be mutually exclusive.
> 



>   The categories are:
> 
>   Moving Averages:
>        SMA's have a constant weight for each term of the average
>        Variable weights for each term - EMA, WMA, Gaussian, etc
>        Weights that change depending on some market condition - like
>   volatility( try ATR ) - Adaptive moving averages
> 
>   Filters:
>        There are many of these (mostly coming out of the electronics
>   industry) like a Kalman filter.  Kalman takes the previous value of
>   the smoothed function and adds some fraction of the current value of
>   the signal based on a complex formula.  (Kalman filters are used to
>   position disk drive heads and guide smart bombs) You can look in
>   Google for Kalman filters, and will discover they are difficult
>   mathematically.  Also you will discover that MS - FL is entirely
>   inadequate to implement these - Better to use AmiBroker software -
>   cheaper and MUCH more powerful programming language.
> 
>   Curve fitting:
>        Here you fit some mathematical function to the price data.  MS
>   has a linear least squares fit, but higher order fits work much
>   better.  (don't try programming a quadratic or cubic fit in MS - FL)
>   Fourier transforms are also used, but mathematically complex.
> 
>   ______________
> 
>   My experience has been that there is some gold to be mined by trying
>   to improve your trend following indicators, but not very much.  My
>   production trading system uses custom coded adaptive moving average,
>   and curve fitting.
> 
>   Cheers,
> 
>   Ed Hoopes
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "tan ming"
>   <reminiscenostalgia@xxxx> wrote:
>   > This post hope to starts a discussion on what are the available
>   methods or
>   > indicators which can effectively used to determine whether current
>   price is
>   > in a trend mode. Personally moving average is my main indicator to
>   dtermine
>   > trend. However as many of you guys know, it suffer when the
market is
>   > starting going to a tradning range. Pls join in the discussion
on the
>   > following topic:
>   >
>   > 1) What are the effective methods or indicators to determine whether
>   the
>   > current price is in a trend mode.
>   >
>   > 2) What are the effective methods or indicators inorder to tell
>   whether the
>   > current price in the early, middle or mature trend?
>   >
>   > Great guys like Jose, Roy, MG and many of them in the forum pls
>   offer some
>   > pointers.
>   >
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