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RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Trend Following



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Is it possible to use Metastock DLL plug-in to develop all these?
 
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   Vladimir
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From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ed Hoopes
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 12:30 PM
To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Trend Following

The problem that you are trying to solve is to extract some
information (trend) from a noisy signal.  My experience ( which comes
from chemical process control and stock trading ) is that the simplest
SMA or EMA will extract about 85% of the information content from a
noisy signal.  So the improvements you seek by going to more exotic
calculations will not improve things very much.

My goals for trenders, are:
     Fast response to trend changes
     Low rate of whipsaws
As you can see, these tend to be mutually exclusive.

The categories are:

Moving Averages:
     SMA's have a constant weight for each term of the average
     Variable weights for each term - EMA, WMA, Gaussian, etc
     Weights that change depending on some market condition - like
volatility( try ATR ) - Adaptive moving averages

Filters:
     There are many of these (mostly coming out of the electronics
industry) like a Kalman filter.  Kalman takes the previous value of
the smoothed function and adds some fraction of the current value of
the signal based on a complex formula.  (Kalman filters are used to
position disk drive heads and guide smart bombs) You can look in
Google for Kalman filters, and will discover they are difficult
mathematically.  Also you will discover that MS - FL is entirely
inadequate to implement these - Better to use AmiBroker software -
cheaper and MUCH more powerful programming language.

Curve fitting:
     Here you fit some mathematical function to the price data.  MS
has a linear least squares fit, but higher order fits work much
better.  (don't try programming a quadratic or cubic fit in MS - FL)
Fourier transforms are also used, but mathematically complex.

______________

My experience has been that there is some gold to be mined by trying
to improve your trend following indicators, but not very much.  My
production trading system uses custom coded adaptive moving average,
and curve fitting.

Cheers,

Ed Hoopes




--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "tan ming"
<reminiscenostalgia@xxxx> wrote:
> This post hope to starts a discussion on what are the available
methods or
> indicators which can effectively used to determine whether current
price is
> in a trend mode. Personally moving average is my main indicator to
dtermine
> trend. However as many of you guys know, it suffer when the market is
> starting going to a tradning range. Pls join in the discussion on the
> following topic:
>
> 1) What are the effective methods or indicators to determine whether
the
> current price is in a trend mode.
>
> 2) What are the effective methods or indicators inorder to tell
whether the
> current price in the early, middle or mature trend?
>
> Great guys like Jose, Roy, MG and many of them in the forum pls
offer some
> pointers.
>
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