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Okay, good luck with the system. In three years, you can tell us how
much you've made. Get the results audited, and you can sell the system
to the less fortunate.
Next time you run tests year by year use the calendar year. I've run
into some problems with test results that used starting dates in the
middle of the year. Intuitively, it doesn't seem like it would matter,
but I've seen a few systems tests where it did make a difference.
--- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter" <mariani@xxxx> wrote:
> Roy,
> I was afraid of that.
>
> Super,
> Thanks for the detailed explanation. Guess I am SOL.
>
> Here are the overall portfolio profits each year for 10 years. Based on
> $20,000 initial with 100% available equity invested.
>
> Test # Description OPT1=2 OPT1=3
> Simulation 26
> Simulation 33 Tickers from 4/13/95 to 4/13/96 $56,191.43
$50,938.91
> Simulation 34 Tickers from 4/13/96 to 4/13/97 $57,085.49
$16,903.62
> Simulation 35 Tickers from 4/13/97 to 4/13/98 $77,511.63
$114,957.57
> Simulation 36 Tickers from 4/13/98 to 4/13/99 $71,420.85
$98,303.31
> Simulation 37 Tickers from 4/13/99 to 4/13/00 $209,405.87
$290,114.33
> Simulation 38 Tickers from 4/13/00 to 4/13/01 $1,615.60
($29,693.35)
> Simulation 39 Tickers from 4/13/01 to 4/13/02 $152,639.93
$158,116.91
> Simulation 40 Tickers from 4/13/02 to 4/13/03 ($11,963.12)
$106,714.19
> Simulation 41 Tickers from 4/13/03 to 4/13/04 $160,324.40
$234,187.23
> Simulation 42 Tickers from 4/13/04 to 4/13/05 $85,159.69
$139,048.32
> $859,391.77 $1,179,591.04
>
>
> I don't have the time to manually move the individual data to excel
at this
> time.
>
> Thanks again, Scott
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roy Larsen
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:50 PM
> To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu)
Idea for
> Scott
>
>
> Scott
>
>
> Somewhere I got the impression you were using MS 8.0. I may be
wrong but I
> don't think it's possible
> to copy System Tester results from 8.0. I think that was one of
the bugs
> fixed with 8.01. The "copy
> to clipboard" option certainly works for 9.0, though Ctrl+C
doesn't seem
> to work. Once pasted to the
> clipboard Crtl+V works OK for pasting into Excel.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Roy Larsen
> www.metastocktips.co.nz
> Free formulas and MS links
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scooter" <mariani@xxxx>
> To: <Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:15 AM
> Subject: RE: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu)
Idea for
> Scott
>
>
> > If only it was that easy. I can not get the data out of MS, short of
> > manually transferring every symbol. I select the results but the
only
> right
> > mouse click option is "discard". I have tried all the Windows
tricks I
> know,
> > no luck.
> > Scott
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:19 PM
> > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu) Idea for
> Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry Scott, I meant to say copy results from the system
tester,
> > not the explorer. You open your test results page and follow
the steps
> > I've explained. Highlight the results you want to transfer to
excel,
> > copy to the clipboard, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter" <mariani@xxxx>
wrote:
> > > Super,
> > > Thanks for taking some time to help me!
> > >
> > > I know how to get the results from the Explorer, I do not
know how
> > to get
> > > the results from the System Tester.
> > > I am excited to try what you suggest but need a little more
help to
> > start.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: superfragalist [mailto:jackolso@x...]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:05 AM
> > > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [Metastockusers] System Tester Results (Redu) Idea for
> Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > Here's an idea that you can use to test your theory. I
explained
> how
> > > to copy results from an exploration into excel and then
from excel
> > > back into various MS lists.
> > >
> > > Run your systems test year by year on your expert.
> > >
> > > Sort the test alphabetically, and then copy the entire test for
> each
> > > year into a new excel worksheet for that year.
> > >
> > > From each worksheet copy the symbol and it's annual percentage
> return
> > > into a new worksheet. Once you have delete symbols that
don't match
> > > across all ten columns, you can delete all of the symbols
except
> the
> > > first year's. You'll be left with a year by year comparison
of the
> > > return on each symbol with your expert.
> > >
> > > You can then see which symbols were consistently profitable and
> which
> > > one weren't. This will answer your question.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter" <mariani@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > Super,
> > > > I did read Mr. Wright's series of articles as you suggested
> > > previously. I
> > > > found it very informative. I found that I was already
doing many
> > of the
> > > > things he suggested in developing a system. I have
applied many
> of
> > > the ideas
> > > > he talked about since reading the articles, more like a book!
> > > >
> > > > He does not address the validity of throwing out losers,
based on
> a
> > > system
> > > > test, from an available list of potential stocks to trade.
> > > >
> > > > I know there are a cagillion system developing books to
read. I
> will
> > > pick up
> > > > a few to read when I have the time.
> > > >
> > > > Can you C&P system test results from MS8.0?
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: superfragalist [mailto:jackolso@x...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:34 PM
> > > > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Looks like you're using the systems tester without much
> > knowledge of
> > > > systems development.
> > > >
> > > > Read a few books on system design and then you'll see
you're
> > wasting
> > > > your time.
> > > >
> > > > There's a very good article on this coming up in the
May issue
> of
> > > > Roy's newsletter.
> > > >
> > > > Don't ask for book recommendations because one book
won't do
> it.
> > > > You'll need to read around a dozen or so systems
development
> > books to
> > > > get a really good take on how things work. Once you've done
> that,
> > > > you'll soon figure out that using TA by itself is not
the best
> > method
> > > > for picking stocks to trade, the performance of any system
> > based on TA
> > > > is going to dramatically change each year with a lot of
losing
> > years,
> > > > there are no indicators that work even reasonably well
across a
> > > > variety of stocks or in changing market conditions, and
> searching
> > > > thousands of stocks every night for something to trade
is in
> > the long
> > > > run a losing idea.
> > > >
> > > > Does that mean you can't make money using TA. You can,
but you
> > have to
> > > > have a well thought out strategy and apply the strategy
> > appropriately
> > > > for the market conditions.
> > > >
> > > > I'm amazed at how many people that refuse to spend a
dime on
> > > > education, information, good data or anything else that
might
> help
> > > > them, but they'll pay a guru thousands for useless trading
> > methods or
> > > > lose thousands more making bad trades. It's baffaling.
> > > >
> > > > You can read Charlie Wright's series of articles called
> > Trading as a
> > > > Business. That will give you some basics about how to
approach
> > this.
> > > > Read all the articles in the series. They all have
something
> > important
> > > > to say.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.elitetrader.com/tr/index.cfm?s=17
> > > >
> > > > Give Roy's newsletter a try. It's all about MS with the
code
> for
> > > > everything discussed in it. You'll learn more from that
in a
> > few hours
> > > > of reading the back issues than you will from playing
with the
> > systems
> > > > tester for next few years.
> > > >
> > > > www.metastocktips.co.nz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter"
> > <mariani@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > > O.k.,
> > > > > I have finally cooked the indicators enough (nothing
new) to
> > come up
> > > > with a
> > > > > system that is profitable over several different
period back
> > tests,
> > > > at least
> > > > > in MS. My question is, do I remove the loosing or
zero trade
> > tickers
> > > > from my
> > > > > potential list of tradable tickers I will run my
Exploration
> > on when
> > > > looking
> > > > > for a new trading opportunity? MS seems to be keen on
> "cleaning
> > > up" by
> > > > > removing the losers. Doesn't make sense to me to say
because
> the
> > > > tickers did
> > > > > not hit or make a profit over x amount of periods
they will
> not
> > > make a
> > > > > profit in the future. Or does it increase my potential
> > > profitability by
> > > > > removing them? Can I somehow export the remaining ticker
> > symbols to
> > > > excel or
> > > > > csv so I can adjust my HSQuote list accordingly?
> > > > > Thanks, Scott
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
> >
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