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RE: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu) Idea for Scott



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Roy,
I was afraid of that.
 
Super,
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Guess I am SOL.
 
Here are the overall portfolio profits each year for 10 years. Based on $20,000 initial with 100% available equity invested.
 
Test # Description OPT1=2 OPT1=3
Simulation 26
Simulation 33 Tickers from 4/13/95 to 4/13/96 $56,191.43 $50,938.91
Simulation 34 Tickers from 4/13/96 to 4/13/97 $57,085.49 $16,903.62
Simulation 35 Tickers from 4/13/97 to 4/13/98 $77,511.63 $114,957.57
Simulation 36 Tickers from 4/13/98 to 4/13/99 $71,420.85 $98,303.31
Simulation 37 Tickers from 4/13/99 to 4/13/00 $209,405.87 $290,114.33
Simulation 38 Tickers from 4/13/00 to 4/13/01 $1,615.60 ($29,693.35)
Simulation 39 Tickers from 4/13/01 to 4/13/02 $152,639.93 $158,116.91
Simulation 40 Tickers from 4/13/02 to 4/13/03 ($11,963.12) $106,714.19
Simulation 41 Tickers from 4/13/03 to 4/13/04 $160,324.40 $234,187.23
Simulation 42 Tickers from 4/13/04 to 4/13/05 $85,159.69 $139,048.32
$859,391.77 $1,179,591.04
 
I don't have the time to manually move the individual data to excel at this time.
 
Thanks again, Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roy Larsen
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:50 PM
To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu) Idea for Scott

Scott


Somewhere I got the impression you were using MS 8.0. I may be wrong but I don't think it's possible
to copy System Tester results from 8.0. I think that was one of the bugs fixed with 8.01. The "copy
to clipboard" option certainly works for 9.0, though Ctrl+C doesn't seem to work. Once pasted to the
clipboard Crtl+V works OK for pasting into Excel.


Kind regards

Roy Larsen
www.metastocktips.co.nz
Free formulas and MS links





----- Original Message -----
From: "Scooter" <mariani@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu) Idea for Scott


> If only it was that easy. I can not get the data out of MS, short of
> manually transferring every symbol. I select the results but the only right
> mouse click option is "discard". I have tried all the Windows tricks I know,
> no luck.
> Scott
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John
>  Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:19 PM
>  To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu) Idea for Scott
>
>
>
>  I'm sorry Scott, I meant to say copy results from the system tester,
>  not the explorer. You open your test results page and follow the steps
>  I've explained. Highlight the results you want to transfer to excel,
>  copy to the clipboard, etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>  --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter" <mariani@xxxx> wrote:
>  > Super,
>  > Thanks for taking some time to help me!
>  >
>  > I know how to get the results from the Explorer, I do not know how
>  to get
>  > the results from the System Tester.
>  > I am excited to try what you suggest but need a little more help to
>  start.
>  >
>  > Scott
>  >   -----Original Message-----
>  >   From: superfragalist [mailto:jackolso@xxxx]
>  >   Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:05 AM
>  >   To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  >   Subject: [Metastockusers] System Tester Results (Redu) Idea for Scott
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >   Scott,
>  >
>  >   Here's an idea that you can use to test your theory. I explained how
>  >   to copy results from an exploration into excel and then from excel
>  >   back into various MS lists.
>  >
>  >   Run your systems test year by year on your expert.
>  >
>  >   Sort the test alphabetically, and then copy the entire test for each
>  >   year into a new excel worksheet for that year.
>  >
>  >   From each worksheet copy the symbol and it's annual percentage return
>  >   into a new worksheet. Once you have delete symbols that don't match
>  >   across all ten columns, you can delete all of the symbols except the
>  >   first year's. You'll be left with a year by year comparison of the
>  >   return on each symbol with your expert.
>  >
>  >   You can then see which symbols were consistently profitable and which
>  >   one weren't. This will answer your question.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >   --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter" <mariani@xxxx> wrote:
>  >   > Super,
>  >   > I did read Mr. Wright's series of articles as you suggested
>  >   previously. I
>  >   > found it very informative. I found that I was already doing many
>  of the
>  >   > things he suggested in developing a system. I have applied many of
>  >   the ideas
>  >   > he talked about since reading the articles, more like a book!
>  >   >
>  >   > He does not address the validity of throwing out losers, based on a
>  >   system
>  >   > test, from an available list of potential stocks to trade.
>  >   >
>  >   > I know there are a cagillion system developing books to read. I will
>  >   pick up
>  >   > a few to read when I have the time.
>  >   >
>  >   > Can you C&P system test results from MS8.0?
>  >   >
>  >   > Scott
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >  -----Original Message-----
>  >   > From: superfragalist [mailto:jackolso@xxxx]
>  >   > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:34 PM
>  >   > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  >   > Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu)
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >   Looks like you're using the systems tester without much
>  knowledge of
>  >   >   systems development.
>  >   >
>  >   >   Read a few books on system design and then you'll see you're
>  wasting
>  >   >   your time.
>  >   >
>  >   >   There's a very good article on this coming up in the May issue of
>  >   >   Roy's newsletter.
>  >   >
>  >   >   Don't ask for book recommendations because one book won't do it.
>  >   >   You'll need to read around a dozen or so systems development
>  books to
>  >   >   get a really good take on how things work. Once you've done that,
>  >   >   you'll soon figure out that using TA by itself is not the best
>  method
>  >   >   for picking stocks to trade, the performance of any system
>  based on TA
>  >   >   is going to dramatically change each year with a lot of losing
>  years,
>  >   >   there are no indicators that work even reasonably well across a
>  >   >   variety of stocks or in changing market conditions, and searching
>  >   >   thousands of stocks every night for something to trade is in
>  the long
>  >   >   run a losing idea.
>  >   >
>  >   >   Does that mean you can't make money using TA. You can, but you
>  have to
>  >   >   have a well thought out strategy and apply the strategy
>  appropriately
>  >   >   for the market conditions.
>  >   >
>  >   >   I'm amazed at how many people that refuse to spend a dime on
>  >   >   education, information, good data or anything else that might help
>  >   >   them, but they'll pay a guru thousands for useless trading
>  methods or
>  >   >   lose thousands more making bad trades. It's baffaling.
>  >   >
>  >   >   You can read Charlie Wright's series of articles called
>  Trading as a
>  >   >   Business. That will give you some basics about how to approach
>  this.
>  >   >   Read all the articles in the series. They all have something
>  important
>  >   >   to say.
>  >   >
>  >   >   http://www.elitetrader.com/tr/index.cfm?s=17
>  >   >
>  >   >   Give Roy's newsletter a try. It's all about MS with the code for
>  >   >   everything discussed in it. You'll learn more from that in a
>  few hours
>  >   >   of reading the back issues than you will from playing with the
>  systems
>  >   >   tester for next few years.
>  >   >
>  >   >   www.metastocktips.co.nz
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >   --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter"
>  <mariani@xxxx> wrote:
>  >   >   > O.k.,
>  >   >   > I have finally cooked the indicators enough (nothing new) to
>  come up
>  >   >   with a
>  >   >   > system that is profitable over several different period back
>  tests,
>  >   >   at least
>  >   >   > in MS. My question is, do I remove the loosing or zero trade
>  tickers
>  >   >   from my
>  >   >   > potential list of tradable tickers I will run my Exploration
>  on when
>  >   >   looking
>  >   >   > for a new trading opportunity? MS seems to be keen on "cleaning
>  >   up" by
>  >   >   > removing the losers. Doesn't make sense to me to say because the
>  >   >   tickers did
>  >   >   > not hit or make a profit over x amount of periods they will not
>  >   make a
>  >   >   > profit in the future. Or does it increase my potential
>  >   profitability by
>  >   >   > removing them? Can I somehow export the remaining ticker
>  symbols to
>  >   >   excel or
>  >   >   > csv so I can adjust my HSQuote list accordingly?
>  >   >   > Thanks, Scott
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >   >
>  >
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