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That esignal symbol thing is a problem. Sometimes I have to delete old
symbols by hand if MS doesn't remove them. 

However, if that were the problem, then once the list hits the point
of cut off every symbol after that would have the error, and it's not
happening that way. Sometimes it's only 30 symbols out of 500 and the
next time it's 70 out of 100. 


--- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "sayakat@xxxx" <sayakat@xxxx>
wrote:
> 
> I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the symbols limit
placed by Esignal?
> 
> If so, then it's the same problem that I reported about 2 version
back. They never did anything about it. What happens is that MS does
not cancel the old symbols that are no longer being used. In other
words even if you only have one symbol up in the charts, MS never
sends a "cancel" to esignal to cancel symbols that are no longer
needed to be updated live. It's not being updated in the background so
it doesn't need the symbol but since it never sends a cancel order,
esignal just keeps it up live and you quickly build up to the symbol
limit.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 
> Message: 1         
>    Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:07:39 -0000
>    From: "superfragalist" <jackolso@xxxx>
> Subject: Explorer Bug
> 
> 
> I keep forgetting to post a note about an explorer bug I notice a
> while back while experimneting with some historical tests. 
> 
> When you run an exploration, if has a filter it rejects some of the
> stocks you run through it. That's normal. There is also a normal group
> of reasons for rejection and the filter is only one. Ocasionally
> you'll get a rejection for a reason associated with MS's ability to
> get the data. 
> 
> However, if you run the same exploration multiple times over a range
> of dates, you may get a lot of rejections for 
> 
> Maximum number of securities alrealy locked. 
> 
> Sometimes the rejection rate can be as high as 70%.
> 
> THIS IS NOT THE ERROR WHICH IS FIXED BY INCREASING THE FILE LOCKS IN
> THE REGISTRY TO AN AMOUNT above 250,000. That's a completely different
> issue.
> 
> Equis knows about the problem and said that in the last version of MS
> they noticed it during testing but it didn't happen too often so they
> didn't fix it. 
> 
> The only way to stop the error is to shutdown MS and start it up
> again. That's a pain when you have to run a number of historical
> explorations for system testing. 
> 
> A lot of people have the problem but they don't notice it because very
> few people open the rejects tab, and very few people run multiple
> explorations across more than the current date. 
> 
> This is a major problem. All of you should make sure that when you run
> an exploration you know why you're getting rejects. 
> 
> If you see this problem, report it to Equis so they can finally figure
> out it's not minor and they need to fix it. 
> 
> Even when they figure it out, given they're track record they won't
> bother to fix it because it doesn't interfere with them selling new
> copies of MS to unsuspecting people. That's sad, but it's the truth
> 
> Anyway watchout for this error. It can change your results
dramatically. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 
> Message: 2         
>    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 00:50:34 -0000
>    From: "superfragalist" <jackolso@xxxx>
> Subject: Explorer Bug Update
> 
> 
> I did a few more tests to try to isolate the Explorer bug and it seems
> to be limited to Esignal data and it looks like it's coming from the
> data on demand cache, or the downloader is creating the error. Also
> sometimes the data symbols file doesn't clear itself properly in the
> turbo feed data manager.
> 
> Check your explorations and make sure it doesn't happen with Reuters
> data. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 
> Message: 3         
>    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:10:07 +0100 (BST)
>    From: Dusant <cooldush@xxxx>
> Subject: Re: Explorer Bug
> 
> I have replied to this on the equismetastock group.
>  
> Dusant
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From:   superfragalist 
>   To: Metastockusers@xxxx   
>   Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:37 AM
>   Subject: [Metastockusers] Explorer   Bug
>   
> 
> 
> I keep forgetting to post a note about an explorer bug   I notice a
> while back while experimneting with some historical tests.   
> 
> When you run an exploration, if has a filter it rejects some of   the
> stocks you run through it. That's normal. There is also a normal   group
> of reasons for rejection and the filter is only one.   Ocasionally
> you'll get a rejection for a reason associated with MS's   ability to
> get the data. 
> 
> However, if you run the same exploration   multiple times over a range
> of dates, you may get a lot of rejections for   
> 
> Maximum number of securities alrealy locked. 
> 
> Sometimes the   rejection rate can be as high as 70%.
> 
> THIS IS NOT THE ERROR WHICH IS   FIXED BY INCREASING THE FILE LOCKS IN
> THE REGISTRY TO AN AMOUNT above   250,000. That's a completely different
> issue.
> 
> Equis knows about the   problem and said that in the last version of MS
> they noticed it during   testing but it didn't happen too often so they
> didn't fix it. 
> 
> The   only way to stop the error is to shutdown MS and start it up
> again. That's   a pain when you have to run a number of historical
> explorations for system   testing. 
> 
> A lot of people have the problem but they don't notice it   because very
> few people open the rejects tab, and very few people run   multiple
> explorations across more than the current date. 
> 
> This is a   major problem. All of you should make sure that when you run
> an exploration   you know why you're getting rejects. 
> 
> If you see this problem, report   it to Equis so they can finally figure
> out it's not minor and they need to   fix it. 
> 
> Even when they figure it out, given they're track record they   won't
> bother to fix it because it doesn't interfere with them selling   new
> copies of MS to unsuspecting people. That's sad, but it's the   truth
> 
> Anyway watchout for this error. It can change your results  
dramatically.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
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