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Re: [Metastockusers] Digest Number 1436



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I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the symbols limit placed by Esignal?

If so, then it's the same problem that I reported about 2 version back. They never did anything about it. What happens is that MS does not cancel the old symbols that are no longer being used. In other words even if you only have one symbol up in the charts, MS never sends a "cancel" to esignal to cancel symbols that are no longer needed to be updated live. It's not being updated in the background so it doesn't need the symbol but since it never sends a cancel order, esignal just keeps it up live and you quickly build up to the symbol limit.




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Message: 1         
   Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:07:39 -0000
   From: "superfragalist" <jackolso@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Explorer Bug


I keep forgetting to post a note about an explorer bug I notice a
while back while experimneting with some historical tests. 

When you run an exploration, if has a filter it rejects some of the
stocks you run through it. That's normal. There is also a normal group
of reasons for rejection and the filter is only one. Ocasionally
you'll get a rejection for a reason associated with MS's ability to
get the data. 

However, if you run the same exploration multiple times over a range
of dates, you may get a lot of rejections for 

Maximum number of securities alrealy locked. 

Sometimes the rejection rate can be as high as 70%.

THIS IS NOT THE ERROR WHICH IS FIXED BY INCREASING THE FILE LOCKS IN
THE REGISTRY TO AN AMOUNT above 250,000. That's a completely different
issue.

Equis knows about the problem and said that in the last version of MS
they noticed it during testing but it didn't happen too often so they
didn't fix it. 

The only way to stop the error is to shutdown MS and start it up
again. That's a pain when you have to run a number of historical
explorations for system testing. 

A lot of people have the problem but they don't notice it because very
few people open the rejects tab, and very few people run multiple
explorations across more than the current date. 

This is a major problem. All of you should make sure that when you run
an exploration you know why you're getting rejects. 

If you see this problem, report it to Equis so they can finally figure
out it's not minor and they need to fix it. 

Even when they figure it out, given they're track record they won't
bother to fix it because it doesn't interfere with them selling new
copies of MS to unsuspecting people. That's sad, but it's the truth

Anyway watchout for this error. It can change your results dramatically. 





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Message: 2         
   Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 00:50:34 -0000
   From: "superfragalist" <jackolso@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Explorer Bug Update


I did a few more tests to try to isolate the Explorer bug and it seems
to be limited to Esignal data and it looks like it's coming from the
data on demand cache, or the downloader is creating the error. Also
sometimes the data symbols file doesn't clear itself properly in the
turbo feed data manager.

Check your explorations and make sure it doesn't happen with Reuters
data. 





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Message: 3         
   Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:10:07 +0100 (BST)
   From: Dusant <cooldush@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Explorer Bug

I have replied to this on the equismetastock group.
 
Dusant
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From:   superfragalist 
  To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx   
  Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:37 AM
  Subject: [Metastockusers] Explorer   Bug
  


I keep forgetting to post a note about an explorer bug   I notice a
while back while experimneting with some historical tests.   

When you run an exploration, if has a filter it rejects some of   the
stocks you run through it. That's normal. There is also a normal   group
of reasons for rejection and the filter is only one.   Ocasionally
you'll get a rejection for a reason associated with MS's   ability to
get the data. 

However, if you run the same exploration   multiple times over a range
of dates, you may get a lot of rejections for   

Maximum number of securities alrealy locked. 

Sometimes the   rejection rate can be as high as 70%.

THIS IS NOT THE ERROR WHICH IS   FIXED BY INCREASING THE FILE LOCKS IN
THE REGISTRY TO AN AMOUNT above   250,000. That's a completely different
issue.

Equis knows about the   problem and said that in the last version of MS
they noticed it during   testing but it didn't happen too often so they
didn't fix it. 

The   only way to stop the error is to shutdown MS and start it up
again. That's   a pain when you have to run a number of historical
explorations for system   testing. 

A lot of people have the problem but they don't notice it   because very
few people open the rejects tab, and very few people run   multiple
explorations across more than the current date. 

This is a   major problem. All of you should make sure that when you run
an exploration   you know why you're getting rejects. 

If you see this problem, report   it to Equis so they can finally figure
out it's not minor and they need to   fix it. 

Even when they figure it out, given they're track record they   won't
bother to fix it because it doesn't interfere with them selling   new
copies of MS to unsuspecting people. That's sad, but it's the   truth

Anyway watchout for this error. It can change your results   dramatically.   




  
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