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 Scott 
Does the entry and exit percentage gain or loss of 
one particular trade match the page with the graph on it? 
Click to Highlight and "view" 
Examine the entry and exit price 
The formula to calculate a gain is - entry 
minus exit.  Divide this number by lowest number.e.g.. 8-10=-2/8= .25 or 
25% 
Now compare this to what MS system tester says on 
summary page. I assume you are using 9.   
Martin Blain Burlington Ontario 
  ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 2:15 
PM 
  Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] What to 
  Look for in a System Test 
  
  
  Martin, 
  Oh, that sounds too easy. :-) I do open some of 
  the charts to evaluate, and verify, the entry and exit signals. Again, because 
  I have so few trades over the period tested there is not much to look at. How 
  do you apply a formula to the results in order to determine gain or loss. When 
  I delete the zeros as you suggested the chart is pretty ugly (sorry I had to 
  look!). 
    
  Thanks, Scott 
  
    ----- Original Message -----  
    
    
    Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:45 
    PM 
    Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] What to 
    Look for in a System Test 
    
  
    Scott 
    Simply highlight the zero trades and hit the 
    delete key delete. You must open each trade and look at the buy and sell 
    amount. Don't look at the page with the graph on it.  If you need the 
    formula to figure out percentage gain or loss let me 
know.  
    Martin Blain Burlington Ontario 
    
      ----- Original Message -----  
      
      
      Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:07 
      AM 
      Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] What to 
      Look for in a System Test 
      
  
      Martin, 
      How do I remove the zero trades without 
      deleting the negative trades? The cleanup utility removes both and I am 
      only left with the winners. I found that entering a percentage for Money 
      Market was really throwing off my overall returns for a given set of 
      equities. I have just been sorting the results by the Net Profit column. I 
      then look at the graph at the top of the results window. If the negative 
      bars out number the positive ones I assume I do not have a good system. I 
      know the magnitude of the losses are incorrect but the actual losses I 
      assume is accurate. 
        
      I look at the trades that did well. For most 
      of my trials I will usually only get 1 or 2 trades in a 250 bar test. I 
      don't think I can just remove the losers and then explore for signals on 
      the equities that did well. Just because they hit on the last 250 bars is 
      not an indication of future performance. This is why I feel I need to have 
      a positive win ratio over all securities in my portfolio in order to have 
      confidence in my system. When I look at different charts with the 
      indicators superimposed I have confidence I can trade them successfully. 
      But when I run the system test my confidence goes to 0. With so few trades 
      a year I would need a good set of stocks to pick from. 
      Thanks, Scott 
      
 
  ----- Original Message -----  
      
        
        
        Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:36 
        AM 
        Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] What 
        to Look for in a System Test 
        
  
        Scott 
        Look at each trade one at a time. The 
        results shown are not accurate. You must calculate the percentage of 
        gain or loss yourself. Start by deleting all symbols with zero trades. 
         
        Martin Blain Burlington Ontario 
        
          ----- Original Message -----  
          
          
          Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 
          8:47 PM 
          Subject: [Metastockusers] What to 
          Look for in a System Test 
          
  
          O.k. 
          I have been building system test after 
          system test, trying several different combinations of indicators. 
          Since I use EOD data I have given up on getting accurate exit values. 
          I get a bunch of high losses which I 
          attribute to the EOD data not exiting until the close. 
            
          I assume the object of a system test 
          is to have more winning trades than loosing ones? I have resorted to 
          adding one optimization so I can look at the overall system 
          performance on a total $$ basis. The only problem with this is that 
          with the exits being what they are, my losses are humongous. I have 
          been trying to find a system that is better than 50/50 but have yet to 
          stumble on anything that yields more winners than losers. 
            
          How do others go about analyzing system 
          tester results? 
          Thanks, 
        Scott 
 
   
 
    
 
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