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 Group, 
  
I trade ten stocks mechanically.  Each of 
these has a single stock futures contract associated with it.  This 
provides 5:1 leverage (20% margin requirement).  The method that I use is 
described in the power point presentation that I forwarded to the group 
("six-pack").    
  
This ten issues universe consist of issues that 
have demonstrated orderly supply and demand (somewhat subjective).  They 
are:  TYC; CEPH; BRCM; JBLU; PD; BIIB; SYMC; LLTC; SBUX; GS 
Each quarter I reevaluate the 
universe. 
  
Attached are issues that closed or opened Friday 
and an issue that is closing on Monday.  Featured on some of the 
charts are my modification of Tim Tillson's T3's (TASC January 1998).  
 
  
Is anyone on the forum using Tim's adaptive moving 
averages?  If not, you should!  They are the best of the bunch.  
Forget Jurik's work or Perry Kaufman's adaptive....the T3's "rule" (in many 
different ways).  Tim has granted me permission to distribute the article 
he wrote for Technical Analysis of Stocks and Commodities.  I also 
(somewhere) have the power point presentations that we offered when we presented 
his work to the DTG (about six months ago). 
  
Tim's research and trading partner is Dave 
Chamness.  Fort Collins, CO. has a group of engineers (Agilent and HP 
mostly) that meet twice a month to discuss technical and mechanical 
trading.  Dave created a power-point presentation on 
over/under-optimizing.  He made this two-hour presentation, to the 
DTG, about eight months ago.  If anyone is interested, I would be glad 
to sent that ppt (also).  Dave retired six months ago and trades full time 
(I think he's in his early forties). 
  
Take care, 
  
Steve 
  
  ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:12 
  AM 
  Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: free means 
  no $ 
  
 
  Steve, talk is cheap.
  "If the four dozen 
  metastock users..." "Ask any of them when they all show up next 
  week" "Go to this website, go to that forum..." For someone that has 
  been around since the dawn of PCs, you are  showing a distinct lack of 
  maturity.
  You seem to go on harping about this or that achievement, 
  about  rubbing shoulders with other "educators", but I see very little 
   substance behind any of your hype or grandstanding. Perhaps you should 
  let your own work do the talking.
 
  As for attacking my personal 
  trading record, part of it (ASX stock  trading) has been posted live over 
  the last 4 years, and it has never  missed a beat. http://users.bigpond.com/prominex/pegasus.htm
  Furthermore, 
  I'm not the least interested in proving anything to you. Since I'm not out 
  to sell pay sites, tips, etc, my trading record is  not important in this 
  regard.  My proven record lies in the useful MS  tools I've coded 
  (including fixing your own attempt at immortalizing  your name), and I 
  don't wish to be judged on any other merits.
  Lastly, being a full-time 
  trader and programmer, I simply don't have  the free time available to 
  continue on this subject, so this is my  last say on this matter.  If 
  I have made just 10% of readers of this  post aware of your real wares, 
  then my job is done.
 
  jose '-)
 
 
  --- In 
  Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "CedarCreekTrading" <kernish@xx ..> 
  wrote: > Jose, > > You sure didn't look far.  How about 
  looking at a  few of your > countrymen's sites that "borrowed" a 
  butt-load of my stuff: > Paritech and Guppy?   Do you know 
  Rick or Daryl?  Give 'em my > regards next time you see 
  them. > > I'll always allow my certified track record to speak for 
  itself. > If you insist of nitpicking my code writing abilty...you 
  win. > I'm a complete code dolt.  But, that's a good thing.  
  The best code > writers I know (double and triple-degreed engineers), 
  are also the > worst traders I know.  God giveth and god taketh 
  away. > > In the attachment that I sent to the forum, I have 
  offered six  formulae that are profitable in real time (providing you 
  implement the  proper rules).  How can you possibly argue the 
  effectiveness of this  system?  Maybe I should encourage the four 
  dozen metastock users, who  hang in my room, to join this forum.  
  Won't it be fun when they start  to explain their day to day trading, using 
  MS, and my formulas.  They  will all make full disclosure about: 
  favorite approaches, among the  six-pack, and post their daily 
  profits/losses. Just think, Jose, you  can criticize these people for being 
  successful traders using my work.  Ask any of them when they all show up 
  next week:  Did Steve ever  charge you for a formula or 
  system? > > I am dying to know one thing:  Do you have any 
  documented trading  statements and would you be willing to share your 
  system and track  record?  I can't wait to see it.  Also, do you 
  promise to be nice to  all the new MS users the forum will be hosting next 
  week (I can cause  a crowd to gather)?  I'm sure, they will all find 
  your comments  amusing. > > > Take care, > > 
  Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jose > 
  To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 
  5:44 PM > Subject: [Metastockusers] free means no 
  $ > > > Well, Steve old boy, I've searched far and wide, and 
  I can't seem to > find much of your work available for free.  I've 
  found a lot of hype > though. > > > Your site: > 
  http://www.thedailytrade.com/ > > 
  PaySite. > > > "Check out the Denver Trading Group: > 
  http://www.denvertradinggroup.com/ 
  the largest trading group in the  world." > > 
  PaySite. > > > "All I'm saying is that nobody has to pay 
  anything for indicators or > trading systems." > > You don't 
  need to say that here because... this is *not* a 
  PaySite. > > > "BTW, check out all the promotional goodies 
  that Equis sends out to > their prospective clients (the video). 
  Recognize any of the  frontmen/ > women? > > Yes, a 
  freebie - but somehow I doubt this self-promotional video is > going to 
  help anyone improve their trading. > > > "I give it all away 
  ... for free." > > Ok, let's take a look at this little free gem, 
  a simple variation of > Standard Deviation histogram, with your name 
  attached to it. > > {Bollinger Band Histogram Karnish} > 
  ((C+2*Std(C,20) - Mov(C,20,S)) / (4*Std(C,20)))*4 - 2 > > For 
  someone that preaches simplicity, it beats me why you've  cluttered > 
  up the MS code with unnecessary complexity: > 
  (C+Std(C,20)-Mov(C,20,S))/Std(C,20)-1 > > Creating useful 
  indicators is not about making them more complex,  but > more useful 
  to the potential trader. > The oscillator above could be improved a tad 
  by introducing  adjustable > inputs (not everyone trades the same 
  style), a more "natural" - > 100~+100% range (allows direct comparisons 
  between different charts) , > and self-adjusting overbought/oversold 
  levels (not every chart has  the > same volatility & trend 
  characteristics): > > ---8<---------------------- > 
  pds:=Input("Std Dev periods",1,252,20); > > 
  x:=(C+Std(C,pds)-Mov(C,pds,S))/Std(C,pds)-1; > 
  Osc:=(x-Lowest(x)) > 
  /(Highest(x)-Lowest(x)+.000001)*100; > > 
  avg:=Cum(Osc)/Cum(IsDefined(Osc)); > pk:=Ref(Osc,-1)=HHV(Osc,3) > 
  AND Ref(Osc,-1)>avg; > pkv:=ValueWhen(1,pk,Ref(Osc,-1)); > 
  Osold:=Cum(pkv)/Cum(IsDefined(pkv)); > > 
  tr:=Ref(Osc,-1)=LLV(Osc,3) > AND Ref(Osc,-1)<avg; > 
  trv:=ValueWhen(1,tr,Ref(Osc,-1)); > 
  Obought:=Cum(trv)/Cum(IsDefined(trv)); > > 
  Osold;Obought;Osc > ---8<---------------------- > > 
  Personally from a trader's point of view, I see nothing 
   exceptionally > helpful about this choppy oscillator.  I doubt 
  you need to worry  about > this one being hijacked by the black box 
  brigade. > > The point here is, that code at this level of 
  simplicity should be > freely available, and not hidden behind 
  paysites. > > > Steve, prior to your hijacking of this 
  thread for your own self- > promotion, a very useful site that has 
  useful MS code freely  available > was mentioned.  No password 
  or subscription is needed to obtain any  of > the very useful 
  indicators there, and it just happens that the  site's > owner has 
  most likely given away more "free stuff" and more of his > time, than 
  everyone else put together in this usergroup. > > MetaStock Tips 
  & Tricks - Free stuff, no promotional videos, and a > very useful 
  monthly MetaStock newsletter. > http://www.metastocktips.co.nz/ > > > 
  jose '-) > > > > > --- In 
  Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "CedarCreekTrading"  <kernish@xx > 
  ..> wrote: > Jose, > > The difference is that all my work 
  is given away for FREE. > Check out the Denver Trading Group: > http://www.denvertradinggroup.com/ > 
  the largest trading group in the world. > > Every month, for the 
  last three years, I am the moderator of the > mechanical SIG group 
  (100+, every fourth Thursday).  Each and every > month, there is a 
  powerpoint presentation that is archived at the  DTG > site.  
  Every month, I present a mechanical system that I trade  "live" > in 
  real time.  The Mirus E-Mini track record is just a small part of > 
  the overall trading program (but, it is a system with absolutely no > 
  custom indicators and of course, dozens of people have printed these > 
  trades in their accounts).   Also, we advise institutions 
  and > brokerage houses around the globe.  You ought to tune into 
  the  "live" > twenty minute morning update. > > All I'm 
  saying is that nobody has to pay anything for indicators or > trading 
  systems.  I give it all away ... for free.  I know that 
   pisses > off charlatans and system hustlers...but so be it.  I 
  don't put you  in > that category Jose.  But, before anyone buys 
  anything, from anybody, > they should investigate what is around .... 
  for free. > > BTW, check out all the promotional goodies that 
  Equis sends out to > their prospective clients (the video).  
  Recognize any of the  frontmen/ > women?  Damn, one of those 
  guys is sure good looking (and I ain't > talking about Oliver or 
  Bob). > > Take care, > > Steve > > ----- 
  Original Message ----- > From: Jose > To: 
  Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:28 
  AM > Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: Xmas is here 
  early > > > > Steve, > > "Since these 
  unsolicited, solicitations keep showing up in my > 
  mailbox..." > > You'd better direct my mail to your spam box, 
  because I'm unlikely > to stop at this one.  The trader's 
  educational market is rife with > scams, and it is highly unusual to 
  find genuinely useful material, > free or 
  otherwise. > > > "First of all, I've been using MS since 
  1988 and have developed very > simple approaches to the market.  
  NOT TOOLS, simple approaches based > on STANDARD pulldown 
  indicators." > > No tools.  Good for you. > But perhaps 
  you are in the wrong usergroup. > > > "Using the Chande 
  Momentum Oscillator..." > > This could be considered a trading 
  tool, and so could MetaStock. > > > " http://www.thedailytrade.com/ 
  " > "Daily Trade subscribers start each day with our Morning 
  Market > Update and Morning Market Call - indispensable tools that 
  help > investors set their daily, short, intermediate and long term 
  market > biases." > > Oh, so you do use TOOLS...  
  <:-I > > > " http://www.mirusfutures.com/cct_log.asp#041130 
  " > > Looks like a tips sheet to me. > I guess no trading 
  tools needed here. > > > "Nobody is using MetaStock with the 
  stealth precision that is > practiced by the group of traders we have 
  gathered." > > Pfff...  :D > > > "If you 
  want to experience a "out-of-body" trading experience.... > join us in 
  our hotcomm room:  Teach Talk Trade." > > Thanks, but I'd 
  prefer to keep my feet firmly on the ground for now. > > > 
  jose '-) > > > > --- In 
  Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "CedarCreekTrading" > 
  <kernish@xxxx> wrote: > Jose, > > Since these 
  unsolicited, solicitations keep showing up in my > mailbox...I guess 
  this forum is open to "suggestions" on how to > spend your hard earned 
  cash. > > First of all, I've been using MS since 1988 and have 
  developed very > simple approaches to the market.  NOT TOOLS, 
  simple approaches based > on STANDARD pulldown indicators.  Using 
  the Chande Momentum > Oscillator I have been trading for dozens of 
  people and the ACTUAL > track record is at: > > http://www.mirusfutures.com/cct_log.asp#041130 > > 
  If you seek a place where the majority of the people use and > exchange 
  information about MetaStock...I would check out: > > http://www.thedailytrade.com/ > > 
  If you want to experience a "out-of-body" trading experience.... > join 
  us in our hotcomm room:  Teach Talk Trade. > > Nobody is 
  using MetaStock with the stealth precision that is > practiced by the 
  group of traders we have gathered. > > Take care, > > 
  Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jose > 
  To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 
  7:38 AM > Subject: [Metastockusers] Xmas is here early > > 
  I've just had the privilege of previewing a pre-release version of > the 
  December issue of Roy's MetaStock Tips & Tricks newsletter, and > if 
  you are a subscriber, you are in for a nice surprise. > > In my 
  view, this is the best issue yet published, with articles on > the 
  System Tester, user-input Explorations, and more. > A new set of 
  articles on filtering relative strength explorations by > a professional 
  trader puts the icing on the cake. > > I better not say much more, 
  except that I have no financial > connection to Roy's newsletter.  
  Apologies to Roy for "jumping the > gun", but it's not often that I get 
  excited by educational material > (of the highest calibre in this 
  case). > > If you haven't been here yet, now is your 
  chance: > http://www.metastocktips.co.nz/ > > > 
  jose '-)
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
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