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No, I can not.  The reason is pretty simple.

My system is based on current events "news articles" and I can only 
go back as far as I have news.

Larry

--- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tom Sprunger" 
<tlsprunger@xxxx> wrote:
> Larry, good that you have chosen an approach that works for you.
> The only true indicator that always works is Price!
> 
> But how can we judge your system when you only have data back a 
year or so?
> How do we know you didn't curve fit?  Can you show data on the NDX, 
SPX, and
> RUT back at least 5 years and preferably 10?
> 
> Tom
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "smithld" <book@xxxx>
> To: <Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:47 PM
> Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: Introducing myself
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > I agree that T/A would work better than a lot of emotions.
> > Especially if they are the emotions of the trader.
> >
> > The Stock market moves, though, from the emotions of the majority 
of
> > the investors.  Think of it this way, if nothing fundamental has
> > changed with a stock or an index, why does the price move up and 
down
> > over a short period of time.  If a major news item comes out, 
such as
> > a terror strike, or good news about the economy, why does the 
market
> > move almost immediately (down for the terror and up for the 
economy)?
> >
> > Emotions, or better yet the level of fear that investors feel, 
moves
> > the market.  That level will only change with external input, 
such as
> > world events.
> >
> > As for my personal holy grail, I personally find it very stressful
> > trading, as do many many others.  That is exactly why I created a
> > completely automated system that trys to take into account the
> > majority of investors emotions rather than mine.
> >
> > I am not into individual stocks, only mutual funds or index 
stocks.
> > Also, I don't hold for more than a few days.  Some people do very
> > well the way you suggested but, it isn't the direction I have 
chosen
> > for my system.  I would be like a duck out of water doing that.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Martin Blain" 
<martin@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > I think TA alone would work better then a lot of emotions. 
Perhaps
> > the writer just hasn't found his own personal holy grail.
> > > Maybe its time for a little friendly competition. This could be
> > easily done by having a common user and password to a yahoo 
account.
> > We could then have individual portfolios  with 10 stocks chosen 
over
> > the period of 1 -2 weeks and held for 60days
> > > Martin Blain
> > > Burlington Ontario
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: rdb104
> > >   To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:08 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Re: Introducing myself
> > >
> > >
> > >   I can't say never but I think we generally agree.
> > >     ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >     From: smithld
> > >     To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >     Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:47 PM
> > >     Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: Introducing myself
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     I agree, I wouldn't trade without TA either, but T/A alone 
will
> > never
> > >     work!
> > >
> > >     Larry
> > >
> > >     --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rdb104"
> > <richandellen@xxxx>
> > >     wrote:
> > >     > MessageI never thought a purely mechanical system could
> > work..but
> > >     wouldn't trade without TA.
> > >     >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >     >   From: Book
> > >     >
> > >
> > 
To: 'onlinetradersclub ' ; 'equismetastock ' ; 'internetstocknews ' ;
> > 
>     'Metastockusers ' ; 'momostocks ' ; 'mutualfunds ' ; 'myqqqsyste
> > m '
> > >     >   Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:00 PM
> > >     >   Subject: [Metastockusers] Introducing myself
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   I would like to introduce myself to this group.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   I am a retired manager of a major U.S. corporation. I 
was
> > >     educated in the fields of mathematics, electrical 
engineering
> > and
> > >     computer science and I have had an interest in stock market
> > analysis
> > >     for nearly 20 years.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   I believe my background skills have given me a unique
> > insight
> > >     into technical analysis, allowing me to look at and 
understand
> > the
> > >     mathematics behind technical analysis formulas, take an
> > unbiased
> > >     common sense approach to the results of these formulas and
> > develop a
> > >     system that does not succumb to the short falls of Technical
> > >     Analysis.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   I have been studying technical analysis in the stock 
market
> > since
> > >     1987, testing and analyzing hundreds of formulas and 
charts.  I
> > began
> > >     by using commercial software with built in formulas, then 
wrote
> > my
> > >     own formulas and finally wrote my own software and formulas.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   I am now writing a book "An Analysis of Technical
> > Analysis",
> > >     which is far from complete but there is some very relevant
> > >     information that I will point you to a little later.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   I have also been lurking and contributing on many forums
> > over the
> > >     last 10 years or so, and I have made several observations.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >     1.. The questions are generally the same, form year to
> > year.
> > >     Some technical question on how to get a formula or program 
to
> > work
> > >     and some general questions on how to make a system that 
really
> > >     works.  The technical questions are usually answered in 
detail
> > but
> > >     the system questions are rarely answered except in the most
> > general
> > >     terms.
> > >     >     2.. There are usually one or two Gurus who expound "I
> > have
> > >     developed a system that really works well" but they never 
give
> > >     explicit details on how this system works and they never 
give
> > actual
> > >     trades until well after the trades have happened.  This 
gives
> > way too
> > >     much opportunity to "adjust" the figures.  In other words, 
they
> > never
> > >     prove themselves.
> > >     >     3.. After a period of time, a year or less, these 
Gurus
> > >     disappear from the scene.  Did they lose all their money, or
> > can't
> > >     they just keep up the BS?
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   Why is this the case?  I will answer this a little 
later.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   First I want to say that I have created a "commercial"
> > market
> > >     timing website, but I will not advertise or even mention the
> > name
> > >     here so that the moderator of this group won't ban me.  My 
main
> > >     concern is to get some very pertinent market timing 
information
> > to
> > >     those of you who are really interested in trying to time the
> > market.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   Let me start out this way.  Technical analysis (using
> > >     mathematical formulas only) DOES NOT WORK, WILL NOT WORK, 
AND
> > YOU
> > >     WILL JUST LOSE YOUR MONEY!
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   How can I possibly say such a thing, especially when I 
said
> > I own
> > >     a market timing web site?
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   I said "Technical analysis (using mathematical formulas
> > only)".
> > >     Mathematical formulas, no mater how simple or complex, try 
to
> > match a
> > >     recurrence, or pattern, in the market.  They simply do not
> > predict
> > >     anything!
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   Experts contend that the market is "random"
> > and "efficient".  We
> > >     all know that random events cannot be predicted and if
> > something is
> > >     really efficient  there are no disparities to capitalize on.
> > These
> > >     two factors alone tell you that the market is impossible, or
> > nearly
> > >     impossible to predict, using mathematical formulas.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   If you would like to learn a little more about technical
> > >     analysis, what works and what doesn't, and what you REALLY 
need
> > to
> > >     look for you can read more of my upcoming book.  The start 
is
> > >     here "An Analysis of Technical Analysis" or you can get the
> > quick and
> > >     dirty "summary" here.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   It won't cost you a cent, but it might save you several!
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   Thanks for reading.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >   Larry
> > >     >
> > >     >
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