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Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Event "Cancelled - Open Cost" in Enhanced System Test



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Chance of getting all heads or tails in:
5 coin tosses in a row: 3.125%    (0.5^5)
7 coin tosses in a row: 0.78125%  (0.5^7)

50 tosses, chance of getting:
a single run of 5 coin tosses in a row: approx 27.2%
a single run of 7 coin tosses in a row: approx  5.4%

jose '-)


--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rvalue1" <rvalue1@xxxx> wrote:
> I have been using 80% of equity for a while and it works fine. It 
> shows a lower return because only 80 % of your equity is invested 
and 
> the final return is a percentage of your account. That keeps me more 
> realistic on my expectations of what I would make..
> Another interesting thing..On flipping a coin with a 50% probability 
> of success, what do you think are the odds of getting 5 tails (bad 
> trades in a row out of 50 trades) in a row?  Very high - like over 
> 70% with a Monte Carlo simulation; per Schaeffer. That shows the 
> importance of money management and sticking to a system for the long 
> haul and not giving up after a few consecutive bad trades in a row.. 
> I flipped a coin 25 times and got 7 tails in a row, and eventually 
10 
> Heads out of the 25 flips.
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "jose_locatelli" 
> <jmlocatelli@xxxx> wrote:
> > Tom
> > 
> > I followed the recommendations in your document, and it seems that 
> my 
> > system is now testing well.
> > 
> > Thanks again,
> > J Locatelli
> > 
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tom Sprunger" 
> > <tlsprunger@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Andrew,  J Locatelli,
> > > 
> > > Some of your questions and problems should be covered in the doc 
> > below
> > > posted in the Files section on this group.
> > > 
> > > Sprunger Guide to MS ver8.doc
> > > 
> > > Go read it carefully.
> > > 
> > > The v8/9 testers have a broker module.  Equis attempted to make 
it
> > > "realistic".   Yeah, right.  Like anyone actually trades like 
> this.
> > > 
> > > When the tester gets a signal it calculates the number of shares 
> to 
> > buy and
> > > passes it to the broker.  The broker places the trade if there 
are
> > > sufficient funds etc. Otherwise it cancels it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Considered :  means a signal has been generated.
> > > Placed:   means an order was sent to the broker for a specific 
> > number of
> > > shares based on the price on the bar the signal was generated 
and 
> > the equity
> > > being used
> > > Open:  means the broker put the order in. If on a buy, you will 
> get 
> > filled
> > > if the price is lower than on the bar the signal was generated, 
> > otherwise
> > > you will not.
> > > Executed: means the order was filled
> > > Cancelled - open cost: means the order was not filled because 
the 
> > price on
> > > the next bar is more (for a buy) than the price calculated on 
the 
> > signal bar
> > > Cancelled- Position Limit:  means the order was not filled 
> because 
> > you had
> > > the max number of position already open
> > > Cancelled - Zero Size: means you did not have enough equity to 
> buy 
> > 1 share
> > > 
> > > There may be some others.
> > > 
> > > Jose, on your specific question,
> > > (Considered)   at 15:50 you got a signal to buy 3494 shares
> > > (Placed)  at 15:50 the order for 3494 shares was sent to the 
> broker 
> > to
> > > execute on the next bar
> > > (Cancelled - Open Cost) at 15:55, the order for 3492 shares was 
> > opened and
> > > then cancelled because the price was higher than the price where 
> > the 3494
> > > shares were calculated.
> > > 
> > > You are probably using 100% of your equity, right?  So  at 15:50 
> > when the
> > > signal was generated it divided your equity by the price on the 
> > signal and
> > > came up with 3494 shares.  On the next bar at 15:55, the price 
> went 
> > up
> > > enough that to buy 3494 shares would have taken more funds than 
> you 
> > had
> > > equity.  So instead of just buying a share or two less, which is 
> > what any
> > > real trader would do, it cancelled the entire order and you 
> missed 
> > the
> > > signal.   No trade.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Tom
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Andrew Tomlinson" <andrew_tomlinson@xxxx>
> > > To: <equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:33 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] Event "Cancelled - Open 
Cost" 
> in
> > > Enhanced System Test
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Even better, if someone has a list of the comments that appear 
in 
> > the orders
> > > report with explanations. None of them are documented in the 
> > manual. I am on
> > > the verge of giving up on Metastock 8/9 as a platform for system 
> > testing.
> > > Too many undocumented bizarre little tricks to get it to do 
> simple 
> > tests. I
> > > haven't done a single system test on this platform that I really 
> > have
> > > confidence in. Not a basis for successful trading.
> > > 
> > > (forgive my bitching. Just spent another 4 hours yesterday 
trying 
> > to match a
> > > simple system with Colby, with mixed results)
> > > 
> > > Andrew
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jose_locatelli [mailto:jmlocatelli@x...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:30 AM
> > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Event "Cancelled - Open Cost" in 
> > Enhanced
> > > System Test
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > I wrote a system test and during the its simulation some enter
> > > signals are cancelled, with a "Cancelled - Open Cost" event 
> reported
> > > on the Orders report, shown below. I didnīt find any reference 
to
> > > this type of event in the help and in the MS8 manual.
> > > 
> > > Can any of you explain what this event means? And how to avoid 
it?
> > > 
> > > 174 23/4/2004 14:50 5 Considered            Sell 3494 Market   2
> > > Signal
> > > 174 23/4/2004 14:50 5 Placed                Sell 3494 Market   2
> > > Signal
> > > 175 23/4/2004 14:55 5 Opened                Sell 3494 Market   2
> > > Signal
> > > 175 23/4/2004 14:55 5 Executed              Sell 3494 Market 
> $2.8500
> > > Open 2 Signal
> > > 184 23/4/2004 15:50 6 Considered            Buy 3492 Market    
> > Signal
> > > 184 23/4/2004 15:50 6 Placed                Buy 3492 Market    
> > Signal
> > > 185 23/4/2004 15:55 6 Cancelled - Open cost Buy 3492 Market    
> > Signal
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Locatelli
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links



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