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Re: [Metastockusers] JO and Postings--A message to Friends and Family



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Jo,
Don't give up. Your posts are too valuable.
 
I agree that everyone's time is precious... we only get an uncertain quota with our first breath, so it makes sense to use it wisely... or at least so we enjoy it.
 
This is my first post, so I write with little weight in this forum, except to say, as a new member, I have waded through reams of posts, learnt lots and been most grateful for the privilege of being a member and having access to this resource.
 
Your time has not been wasted... far from it if you take pleasure from helping the likes of me who value your ideas and opinions. I hope you don't let a selfish few blind you to the gratitude of the silent majority.
 
Col S
 manohohman <kelols@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I rejoined the group for today in order to clarify a few things and to thank the members who sent me the nice emails, including the members who asked me a 100 more questions before I stopped answering emails. I may have a solution to the problems Im having with posting and answering the emails. It will save me a lot of time, allow me to share information, and make it easy for all of you to access it. First of all, I'm not relinquishing my postings due to perceived conflicts with the king of SHILL hunting, Jay. After a word to Jay, I will explain what is going on and how I think I can solve it for those who have any interest in whatever I find that looks useful..  "Jay, I'm guessing you're a nice guy—maybe a little obsessed with hunting down what you perceive as evil—but nice. Of course that is a guess! Sometimes
 you're even positive and knowledgeable,  which I enjoy taking advantage of. ""Yes, Jay, I do get tired of the SHILL references, and I also think that all that does is diminish your credibility. However, it's your credibility to do with as you wish."By the way, Jay, if you think I'm wrong about the credibility issue, maybe some of the members of the site would be willing to provide their comments in a polite way that resembles useful feedback. If people think I'm a SHILL and Jay has rooted out a source of evil, well let's hear it. If you think Jay's approach is less than helpful, same thing. Let's hear it. You still haven't answered my question. Did you ask for that refund? I admit some of the ranting and vitriolic comments bother me, not because they're opposed to what I am saying, but because they might discourage some of the newer users from trying a product that would help them. When a product
 has a money back guarantee, each person should simply try it for themselves. A couple of people have said recently that ICE is one of their best plug-ins. As I've said so many times, at least half of stuff I've bought for MS has gone back because it did not work for meAside from that issue, the reason I'm don't want to answer email and do postings is because of the time factor. There are only so many hours in the day. I get a number of emails asking for help. It's really impossible to help everyone. When I politely decline to help teach someone how to trade, or build a system, or whatever, I usually get a nasty email back telling me how selfish I am, or screw me, or worse.  Sure I get tired of that. Real tired of it. I would like to tell them what I think, but I was raised with manners.Unfortunately, email anonymity gives people license to say things that they never would say to you if they were sitting in front of
 you. I don't believe in that approach. I don't say things on this board or in emails I wouldn't tell you if you were talking directly to me. As far as the postings go, most people would never believe how much time goes into those. Once a posting is up, this creates more questions, which is a reasonable expectation, and one I don't object to. But I get asked the same questions over and over. People don't go back and search the archives. For example, I've been asked what books I've read, what's the BEST trading book I've ever read, if a person could only read three books which three should they read, and it goes on. I've been very lucky in life, and I've always been willing to share whatever I had that might help someone else. Doing that is very disappointing many times because very, very few people listen. They want advice that's quick, easy, free and that they like. If it meets all of these criteria, they might,
 and I mean might, follow the advice.  Well, advice rarely meets such a list; so few people ever do anything useful with anything you've told them. They want success but they don't want to do what it takes, including listen.The only return on investment I get from my time is to see people use something I've told them for good purposes. That's rare. I would like to continue to share what I know, read or found without it being such a huge time drain. I think I can do that by writing various things in a longer format and posting the writing with the references, formulas and other stuff in the files section, if the moderator will let me. Then anyone who wants to read whatever I've contributed can go there and find it. That way I only have to post whatever once. However, I guess I need to use disclaimers. While I do read 25 or more trading books a year, I do not now know, or will ever know, what the best 3
 trading books are. I surely do not know which one is the best one for you to read. I will write a little review about each book and then you pick.Jay, I didn't write books: I don't own the publishing company that printed the book; I am not personal friends with the author; I am not being paid for my book reviews, and I don't move my lips when I read. Get it!Whenever I post a file I will post a note saying there's a file and telling you what's in it. If you feel like reading it, fine. If not fine!  However, I will not answer questions or respond to emails. I would like to, but I don't have the time. It's amazing how many emails some people send me just to ask one question. I really hear from some fine people from all over the world. How lucky do I feel—totally blessed. I wish I had the time to personally write each one a book telling them whatever I know that might make their lives better in some small
 way----but I can't. If you have questions you can post them, and someone else on the board will answer them for you. That's support. Please don't tell me "you just want to pick my brain." Another name for a brain picker is a vulcher. I used to hear that a dozen times a day when I was speaking around the country.  Let me translate-- I'll buy you a cheap lunch so I can get 1000s of dollars of information from you for free! Wow, aren't I smart. No, a vulcher is hardly smart. My brain is not here for picking, it's here to help me make good choices in life, and if you pick it, it might not work anymore.While I'm whinning--I correspond with Roy a few times a week. We exchange information. His information is more useful than mine. (While I know he can speak for himself) As you all know, he's a kind, generous and humble person. Do any of you have any idea how much mail he receives in a day? It's got to wear him out
 sometimes. He gets huffy email too. Can you imagine? Roy's manners make mine look crude. No one should ever say an unkind word to him, or slight him in anyway, because he gives so much and asks so little. Some people thank him, but many don't. Shame on you, if you're one of those who eat and run. If any of you think what I'm saying is arrogant—great. You can learn from arrogant people, especially ones that have been successful. Arrogant people who have failed can't teach you much except how to be an arrogant failure. Skip that class! If enough people express interest in having me share in this manner, this is what I will do. If the majority of people are not interested I won't waste my time. How simple can it get? There is one more thing I would like. There are too many lurkers on the MS sites. I get emails or read an occasional post from them that's wonderful. Where have you been? What's all this crap
 about not having anything to contribute? If you believe what you have told me that you like what I post and it's valuable---okay help me out. Let hear from you. There are too many questions by people who want to know elementary stuff that's in the manual or on the help screen. Read the book, use the help menu or call technical support. I don't think this site should be a substitute for Pring's how to use MS CDs.  Buy the CDs and use them. I did.  Many really good questions get posted. A lot of good information gets exchanged. I am working on the Systems Tester problem. I've read a number of posts saying 7.2 is better. Okay, how is it better? Saying you get results from 7.2 you trust but not from 8.01 is BS. Give us the facts, not a vague opinion. I've had problems with 8.01 also. I have no idea if my problems are the same as yours. I don't know what yours are. I'm trying to find out what's wrong,
 and I'm going to do that. Does it have bugs—no doubt—should those bugs be causing the kind of problems I'm seeing—no way. I think by next week I'll have some ideas on what's going on. I've asked some long time MS users and some former Equis employees if they've seen any problems and they said no. That was a dead end. But I've got other sources of information I should have put together by next week. I'll let you know if I find anything. I hope so. I use the systems tester all the time. I hope I don't have to start over. Okay, this is long, I know. If the support is in favor of what I'm suggesting post your support. If you are not in favor that is good too, share it. You will be doing me a favor.JOTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:Metastockusers-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 
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