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[Metastockusers] An ICE experiment--more informaiton on the plug-in



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Previously I had mentioned I had used ICE to finish the development 
of a trading system that I had been working on. I was looking for 
ways to incorporate into my present system a bit more information on 
sizing trades. I also explained that ICE had saved me a lot of time 
in doing this, and that alone made it easily worth the price.

I have another experience to share. Sometimes I'll trade only one 
security for days at a time. Maybe it's the Qs or SPYs, as an 
example. I will also decide the time frame based on market 
volatility. 

As I change time frames, or switch securities, the various indicators 
in my system, while still working good, but are not optimal. I 
understand this, and it's obviously why I have more than one 
indicator in my system, as we all do.

Today, I took a couple of the stocks I sometimes use for that style 
of trading and decided to see what ICE had to say about my 
indicators.  

What I got surprised me. On one of the securities, ICE told me r-
squared was as a very profitable indicator. R-squared is a 
correlation coefficient, and can be difficult to trade with, but ICE 
was telling me it showed the best performance across all 70 
indicators I had tested and was definitely the vertical leader by a 
wide margin. 

I fooled around with it on a chart and finally isolated the best R-
squared coefficient for that stock in my particular time frame. R-
squared is a measure of the correlation  of stock price movement to a 
linear trend over time. 

I usually use the ADX for my strength of trend information, and I 
didn't really want to put an R-squared indicator on my chart, so I 
wrote it as a highlight formula. (Very simple!). When I set it up as 
a highlight, it was terrific at telling me when a trend was strong---
in other words, when to put more into the trade. In fact, it turned 
out to be much better than the ADX for that stock in that time frame. 
It worked just like ICE implied it should. I would have never guessed 
or even tested R-squared on this security, much less suspected it 
would out perform the ADX.

Then I decided to see how it faired on one of the other ETFs I was 
trading in the same time frame. It was really poor. However, ICE told 
me MACD was the best. But when I optimized it, I got a weird number 
for the opt variable. I got a 1. If you open MACD with a 1 for the 
signal time periods, you get a line that oscillates around 0. As it 
turns out, for this security on my particular time frame, the 
crossing of 0 by the MACD gave great signals for trend changes. 

Again I programmed it as a highlight indicator. I've programmed and 
tested around a hundred highlight formulas trying to find the best 
trend indicator that I could. Basically, I had settled on an Aroon 
formula that I had written, which has tested out as the best I have 
seen for my purpose. 

When I tested the MACD highlight code on this security in the time 
frame I'm trading it in, it beat the Aroon code significantly. It 
really amazed me how much of a difference it made. The Aroon code was 
equally as good at detecting the trend changes, but the MACD code was 
smoother and more precise, which equals the ability to see the trend 
change sooner and stick with the trade longer---i.e. more profit.

 Of course, I'll have to trade with it for a while to be sure it 
works properly and changes in a timely fashion. One problem with MS 
is it doesn't have a simulator function to test systems on the right 
edge with historical data feed. That's a major issue for me, and not 
one that Equis is likely to fix. 

I don't know if you'll get as much out of ICE as I have. If you don't 
have much experience, it will show you what indicators work best on 
what you want to trade and it will show you how to eliminate 
colinearity issues, which is important. However, you likely won't be 
able to do some of the things with it I've just described.

If you are experienced, and do some thinking, you can get some really 
valuable information for tweaking out your current systems, or for 
building new ones. It takes patience, some study, some thinking and 
some applications knowledge, but in the end what I've gotten is going 
to make me a few more percentage points a year—maybe more!

I still can believe it only cost $99. I've mentioned the manual 
problem and the missing table of opt values for each indicator, which 
is a problem. That's part of the reason it's still only $99.  
However, that said, of all the plug-ins I've tried (and I've tested a 
bunch) this is the only one that really gave me something that's 
going to improve my trading. I can't promise you what you will get 
because that depends on you. Nothing is completely automatic, or fool 
proof, but this is good.

JO

P.S.  The formulas are passworded. If you want something that gives 
you the code, this isn't it. ICE is not written in simple MS code. 
Not only does it give you the optimized variables, it gives you a 
stop level and the indicators are normalized against one and other. 



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