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RE: [Metastockusers] Average Daily Range



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class=905582116-18102002>Bill,
it 
depends on your trading time frame but for short term swing trades I gravitate 
towards atr(14). I use ATR to determine if the current move is inside or outside 
of the stocks "comfort Zone". My pivot studies are done in DT and used for 
target analysis, but your concept holds interesting possibilities. are you 
suggesting a barcount setting from the last pivot point?
<SPAN 
class=905582116-18102002> 
I have 
not compared the approach to raff et al but they seem to be more suited as 
support resistance indicators where the ATR study may better lead you towards a 
hard or soft approach to one of the their violations. 
<SPAN 
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<SPAN 
class=905582116-18102002>Example Your Raff study shows you to be at or near a 
resistance level. As the stock moves towards this study line you note that your 
expected daily range could very well be several points outside that study line. 
This might encourage you to take a "soft" approach to the Raff Signal. this is 
all off the top of my head and deserves more thought. 
 
Jayson 

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size=2>-----Original Message-----From: wavemechanic 
[mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 12:16 
PMTo: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: 
[Metastockusers] Average Daily Range
Jayson:
 
What have you found are good period settings for 
historical?  Have you looked at using this from pivots as opposed to 
intraday moves?   Have you compared this approach to using Raff, std. 
dev. and such?  Just some thoughts as I have not followed 
ATR intraday, but having been using the other 
constructions.
 
Bill
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  <SPAN 
  class=353074015-18102002>Lionel,
  <SPAN 
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  the 
  KISS principal !   on my RT charts I take it a step further and 
  calculate the percentage of the days move as it relates to historical 
  percentage. this is very handy as at a glance I can see if the current move is 
  note worthy. ATR is a very powerful tool
   
  Jayson 
  
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Lionel Issen 
  [mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:18 
  AMTo: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: 
  [Metastockusers] Average Daily Range
  <FONT face=Arial 
  size=2>Jason:
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  Thanks for this 
  tip.  I should have thought of it.
  Like many good 
  ideas, it fairly simple to use and obvious once you see 
it.
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  <FONT face=Arial 
  size=2>Lionel
   
   
  
  
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  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Jayson 
  [mailto:jcasavant@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 9:46 
  AMTo: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: 
  [Metastockusers] Average Daily Range
  Of 
  course. Setting a 3% stop loss on a stock whose ATR is 5+% may very well 
  result in getting stopped out during the normal trading day. Setting your stop 
  loss to reflect a more realistic range for each stock will help keep you in 
  the trade. rather than a flat ATR number I like to relate atr to the stocks 
  trading price. (ATR/close)*100 will present a percentage reading of the ATR 
  where you will see the historical daily percentage price swing of the stock. 
  this may be useful for determining your stop. when tied to visible 
  support/resistance levels you may better judge the viability of a given 
  trade......
   
  Jayson 
  
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: moishe73 
  [mailto:mbuchalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 
  9:14 AMTo: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
  [Metastockusers] Average Daily RangeWould knowing the 
  Average Daily Range be helpful in setting Stop Loss limits instead of 
  arbitrary limits?  If so, what would the formula look 
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