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Re: How safe are our brokerages?



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I believe the safest idea is to designate a US treasury based 
money market fund as a "sweep" for your brokerage cash.
 
... John
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  Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 6:59 
  PM
  Subject: RE: How safe are our 
  brokerages?
  
  <FONT color=#008080 face=Arial 
  size=4>Theo
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  When 
  major companies are going bankrupt I begin to be concerned about all 
  companies. If we have a real capitulation where investors want nothing to do 
  with stocks, I suspect all of the small brokerages will fail. This would cause 
  the SPIC to fail so we would have no insurance. This is, of course, a worst 
  case scenario.
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  I am 
  very concerned about protecting my capital so I have moved most of my liquid 
  assets into FDIC banks. Our $ is safe there unless the fed goes 
  under.
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  <FONT color=#008080 face=Arial 
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    owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
    Behalf Of John AdairSent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 6:00 
    PMTo: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: How safe are 
    our brokerages?
    
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    style="mso-spacerun: yes"> You have alerted me to a problem. ( 
    100.000 max insurance on cash). I wonder if a money market fund is 
    considered cash. I suspect all cash<SPAN 
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    storage which is invested in something.<SPAN 
    style="mso-spacerun: yes">  Otherwise everyone would limit their 
    funds to 100,000 per brokerage house.
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    style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of theo lockefeer<SPAN 
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    metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN 
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    brokerages?
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    <FONT color=black face=Arial 
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    just looking at balance sheet could be "too little"<FONT 
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    style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> How safe are our 
    brokerages?<SPAN 
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    style="COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">With the onset of 
    major bankruptcies, I think it is important to consider the security of your 
    broker. Besides Enron (world's 7th largest company), K-Mart (world's 3rd 
    largest retailer), and JP Morgan, many other well established companies are 
    in trouble. Many of the newer online brokerages and mutual funds are part of 
    the dotcom era. I wonder how solvent they are?<FONT 
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    style="COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">I just finished 
    reading an article about what I felt was one of the most secure (although 
    expensive) online brokerages. In Q3 2001, Schwab's trades were down 26% from 
    Q3 2000. In response Schwab has begun selling investment advice.  This 
    is not making Schwab's independent advisors happy and they account for 1/3 
    of it's total client assets. In addition, estimates are that Schwab's 2001 
    net income is down 50% from 2000.<SPAN 
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    style="COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">How can we tell 
    how solvent out broker is?<SPAN 
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