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<SPAN
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class=560564401-14092001>Interesting figures. My concern is more available
potential supply in the ground in US territory. Any idea of the amount in 1980,
1990, and 2000 as well as estimates (with increasing consumption) for 2010 and
2020?
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<SPAN
class=560564401-14092001>Ultimately I do not believe that our society is
sustainable. We are using natural resources and destroying the ecosystem of the
planet that will ultimately lead to our own destruction. Hope I am wrong but
this is the way I see it.
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<SPAN
class=560564401-14092001>neo
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<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From:
owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of wavemechanicSent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:13
PMTo: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: Stand proud,
America!
Neo:
Here are the figures:
Reserves (10^12 m^3) at end of
year:
5.4 (1980)
4.71 (1990)
4.74 (2000)
Consumption (10^11 m^3) at end of
year:
5.4 (1980)
6.2 (1990)
6.5 (2000)
Production (10^11 m^3) at end of
year:
5.1 (1980)
5.4 (1990)
5.6 (2000)
So reserves and production have been held constant
while consumption and imports increased. Given the fact that reserves
are not infinite, this does not sound like a sensible way to go, i.e., use the
other guys reserves before your own. But also, don't forget that there
is a huge reserve of gas locked up in the form of coal. Actually,
probably a good way to use the large reserves of low caloric value
coal.
As for shipping, natural gas can be shipped like oil
and, in fact, is shipped all over the world in liquefied form. The U.S.
currently obtains about 5% of its requirements in this
manner.
Solar, wind, geothermal, ocean tides, etc. are
certainly other alternatives. But there is no free lunch there
either. For example, how much space are we willing to turn over to solar
panel farms, which are not the prettiest things around? Or to windmill
farms? (Wisconsin did a study and the acreage required to replace a
fossil or nuclear power plant is significant.) How much of our land are
we willing to devote to such usage? Where will such farms go? How
cost competitive does alternative energy have to be? Etc., etc.
Certainly valid questions for governmental studies, but to the best of my
knowledge no answers at the present time. Then again we have gone for
many, many years without an energy strategy or governmental leadership so the
absence of answers is not surprising.
Bill
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
neo
To: <A title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:47
PM
Subject: RE: Stand proud,
America!
AlI did not mean short term. I was talking about
years not months. The US isrunning out of fossil fuels. I believe the US
receives about 30% of it'snatural gas from Canada. Natural gas cannot be
shipped like oil (where theUS cannot meet it's own needs and is
dependent on OPEC). The US must moveaway from fossil fuels and towards
nuclear, solar, and wind. The otherconsideration of course is the carbon
dioxide produced.If you have the forecasts on the abundance of
natural gas that the US hasfor many years ahead I would like to see
it.The US runs on energy and cannot afford to be so dependent on
OPEC.neop.s. I agree that more spies are needed out in the
field~ -----Original Message-----~ From: <A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Al Taglavore~
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:03 PM~ To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~
Subject: Re: Stand proud, America!~~~ neo> "...The US
is almost out of natural gas.....~~ This is totally
incorrect. The demand has increased for this~ clean
burning~ fuel, and the exploration and production has increased to
meet demand.~ Check the futures markets, check the annual reports
for natural gas~ companies as to their increase of supply (this
can be done by reading the~ reports from the companies
websites).~ ----------~ > From: neo <<A
href="mailto:neo1@xxxxxxxxx";>neo1@xxxxxxxxx>~ > To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~
> Subject: RE: Stand proud, America!~ > Date: Thursday,
September 13, 2001 6:57 AM~ >~ > John~
>~ > I agree totally. France generates 80% of it's
electricity from nuclear~ > power. The US is almost out of
natural gas. We should move to nuclear~ power.~ >
This is one of the biggest national defense issues the US has.~
>~ > neo~ >~ >~ >
~ -----Original Message-----~ > ~ From: <A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~
> ~ [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John
Adair~ > ~ Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:13
PM~ > ~ To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~
> ~ Subject: RE: Stand proud, America!~ > ~~
> ~~ > ~ Terrorism will persist as long as we finance
it with our~ > ~ purchase of oil. We~ >
~ Must start a massive project to become independent of the~
Middle East~ oil~ > ~ producers. We
must develop alternative energy sources. Osama~ > ~
will return~ > ~ to finish the job he started. Eliminate
The USA and Israel.~ > ~~ > ~ -----Original
Message-----~ > ~ From: <A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~
> ~ [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On~ >
~ Behalf Of neo~ > ~ Sent: Wednesday, September 12,
2001 7:29 PM~ > ~ To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~
> ~ Subject: RE: Stand proud, America!~ > ~~
> ~ Glen~ > ~~ > ~ I do not think
she was talking about Canada. Canada and the US are~
very~ > ~ close. It is many of the other
countries.~ > ~~ > ~ Look at Palestine. The
US has done everything it could do~ to get them~
a~ > ~ county back and they were dancing in the streets
when this~ > ~ happened. The US~ > ~
went to liberate Kuwait and yet in Saudi Arabia people were~ >
~ dancing in the~ > ~ streets. The US is in a
recession and OPEC just keeps their oil~ > ~ prices
high~ > ~ which strangles the US economy.~ >
~~ > ~ neo~ > ~~ > ~~
> ~ ~ -----Original Message-----~ > ~
~ From: <A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~
> ~ ~ [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Glen
Wallace~ > ~ ~ Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001
7:11 PM~ > ~ ~ To: MetaStock listserver~
> ~ ~ Subject: Re: Stand proud, America!~ >
~ ~~ > ~ ~~ > ~ ~ > I
can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help~ >
~ ~ of the other~ > ~ ~ > people in
trouble. Can you name me even one time when~
> ~ ~ someone else raced~ > ~ ~ >
to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
outside~ > ~ ~ help even~ > ~
~ > during the San Francisco earthquake.~ > ~
~~ > ~ ~ For shame. Canada continually and
consistently aids its~ > ~ ~ neighbour, and
vice~ > ~ ~ versa. Canada has sent medical
personnel to New York yesterday~ > ~ ~ and
today,~ > ~ ~ and blood collection services even
here in the west are~ > ~ ~ overwhelmed. If I
set~ > ~ ~ my mind to it, I'm sure I could name
5,000 times when Canada did~ help.~ > ~ ~
Here's a few -- the forest fires in north western U.S.
this~ > ~ ~ summer, the Exxon~ >
~ ~ Valdez clean-up, the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, the ice storms
in~ > ~ ~ north eastern~ > ~
~ U.S. (and Canada) in 1998. I don't want to hear any more
of~ > ~ ~ this crap; take~ > ~
~ it off-list.~ > ~ ~~ > ~
~~ > ~~ >
~~
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