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----- Original Message -----
From: "metastock-digest" <owner-metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:21 AM
Subject: metastock-digest V1 #1345
>
> metastock-digest Tuesday, May 22 2001 Volume 01 : Number
1345
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:44:43 +0100
> From: "John R" <jrdrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Confused
>
> Steve,
>
> I respect your views as a professional trader but beg to differ on this
last
> statement:-
>
> > I repeat, even though I've had my own issues, over 14 years of use, MS
> (EOD
> > or Pro) is the best bang for the money on the market. Show me something
> > better and I'll buy it.
>
> IMHO MS is the best charting tool in the business but as an all round TA
> product there are products which offer considerably better value for
money.
>
> Consider for example AIQ Trading Expert Pro. This offers in a single
package
> (for less cost I believe):-
>
> Structured database allowing sector and group analysis.
> Powerful formula language & backtester.
> Pre-built trading stratgeies.
> Fundamentals.
> Scanning and Reports.
> Portfolio Manager
> Quotes.
> EOD & R/T data feeds.
> R/T Alerts.
> Matchmaker correlation analysis.
>
> Please note I have no conection with AIQ - simply a user, as I am for MS.
>
> IMO TA is no different from most other applications in that rarely is
there
> a single product which excels in all areas - it's therefore a case of
> "horses for courses" and each user needs to determine which TA product, or
> combination of TA products, will best serve their individual method of
> trading. MS is excellent for eyeballing charts but for developing
mechanical
> trading systems, monitoring sector rotation, relative strength etc. there
> are better products.
>
> John
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Confused
>
>
> > John,
> >
> > Review your emails and please note, after sorting with the "from"
button,
> > that most "problem" post come from a very selective few. I honestly
have
> > trouble imagining how anyone can trade while writing endless emails
about
> > what a horrible product MS is.
> >
> > In fact, considering the endless hours of bashing that some folks
consume
> > writing these negative posts, my opinion is that they should move on to
> > another product. I know I put a loose dollar amount on what my time is
> > worth. It seems a few would rather complain and then, invest hundreds
of
> > hours structuring their complaints in MS posts. Since this is an
> "investing
> > forum", does it make sense to invest time in this black hole.
> >
> > I have no complaints. I use ESig and Pro and day/swing trade the beans,
> > wheat and the emini. EOD is just fine for the majority of my mechanical
> > trading. The real-time trading keeps me awake. Never, ever, not even
> once,
> > have i considered MS as a handicap to appreciating equity. I think
those
> > that complain the loudest, trade the least.
> >
> > I repeat, even though I've had my own issues, over 14 years of use, MS
> (EOD
> > or Pro) is the best bang for the money on the market. Show me something
> > better and I'll buy it.
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > Steve Karnish, CTA
> > Cedar Creek Trading
> > http://www.cedarcreektrading.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Moore" <chartist1951@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:02 AM
> > Subject: Confused
> >
> >
> > > I've seen a ton of email concerning QuotesPlus and issues with
> MetaStock.
> > >
> > > I'm too new to understand what's going on. About 2 weeks ago, I
> installed
> > > 7.2 and hooked up the Reuter's data feed. I don't have any of these
> > problems
> > > or at least I am not aware of them.
> > >
> > > Is there a MS/Reuters user that knows if I have issues with what I've
> > > purchased?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > John
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:17:22 -0400
> From: "C. Baude" <BAUDECB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: OT: We all pay for this....
>
> There are many "eggs" in software. This contributes to the file size
> bloat.
> =================================
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:33:11 -0600, you wrote:
>
> > Did you know that there is a flight simulator concealed in Microsoft
> > Excel 97?
> >
> > To access this game use the following sequence of commands (detailed by
> > Larry Werring in RISKS Digest 19.53 on January 5, 1998):
> >
> > * Open Excel 97.
> > * Open a new worksheet and press the F5 key.
> > * Type X97:L97 and press the Enter key.
> > * Press the Tab key.
> > * Hold Ctrl-Shift and click the Chart Wizard button on the tool bar.
> > * Once the Easter egg is activated, use the mouse to fly around
> > - right button for forward, left for reverse.
> >
> > If you have DirectX drivers installed, a bizarre landscape appears and
> > you can "fly" over (or under) the geometric forms by using the arrow
> > keys on your keyboard. If you look carefully in the virtual distance,
> > you can find a stone monitor planted in the ground. If you get close
> > enough, you can see the names of the development team scrolling by.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:28:46 -0700
> From: "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Dazed,Confused, & out in the woods
>
> John,
>
> I'll stick by what I said and add, "for me", it's the best bang for the
> buck. I couldn't agree more about using multiple platforms to cover
> inadequencies of most programs.
>
> As far as AIQ: been there, done that (although, it's been two years). It
> didn't do it for me. I liked a lot of features, I invested way too much
> time evaluating it. In the end, I was convinced that it was a tool that I
> couldn't incorporate into our futures and equities trading.
>
> Maybe I'm blinded by the fact that MS has helped me design, test, and then
> successfully trade many different approaches to the markets. I know many
of
> my professional friends, some who even slum this list, run MS and
> TradeStation.
>
> I live seven miles from pavement, so, I don't get out much.
> Sorry about the subjective opinion, at least my trading is totally
> objective.
>
> Take care,
>
> Steve Karnish, CTA
> Cedar Creek Trading
> http://www.cedarcreektrading.com
>
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John R" <jrdrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 1:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Confused
>
>
> > Steve,
> >
> > I respect your views as a professional trader but beg to differ on this
> last
> > statement:-
> >
> > > I repeat, even though I've had my own issues, over 14 years of use, MS
> > (EOD
> > > or Pro) is the best bang for the money on the market. Show me
something
> > > better and I'll buy it.
> >
> > IMHO MS is the best charting tool in the business but as an all round TA
> > product there are products which offer considerably better value for
> money.
> >
> > Consider for example AIQ Trading Expert Pro. This offers in a single
> package
> > (for less cost I believe):-
> >
> > Structured database allowing sector and group analysis.
> > Powerful formula language & backtester.
> > Pre-built trading stratgeies.
> > Fundamentals.
> > Scanning and Reports.
> > Portfolio Manager
> > Quotes.
> > EOD & R/T data feeds.
> > R/T Alerts.
> > Matchmaker correlation analysis.
> >
> > Please note I have no conection with AIQ - simply a user, as I am for
MS.
> >
> > IMO TA is no different from most other applications in that rarely is
> there
> > a single product which excels in all areas - it's therefore a case of
> > "horses for courses" and each user needs to determine which TA product,
or
> > combination of TA products, will best serve their individual method of
> > trading. MS is excellent for eyeballing charts but for developing
> mechanical
> > trading systems, monitoring sector rotation, relative strength etc.
there
> > are better products.
> >
> > John
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: Confused
> >
> >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > Review your emails and please note, after sorting with the "from"
> button,
> > > that most "problem" post come from a very selective few. I honestly
> have
> > > trouble imagining how anyone can trade while writing endless emails
> about
> > > what a horrible product MS is.
> > >
> > > In fact, considering the endless hours of bashing that some folks
> consume
> > > writing these negative posts, my opinion is that they should move on
to
> > > another product. I know I put a loose dollar amount on what my time
is
> > > worth. It seems a few would rather complain and then, invest hundreds
> of
> > > hours structuring their complaints in MS posts. Since this is an
> > "investing
> > > forum", does it make sense to invest time in this black hole.
> > >
> > > I have no complaints. I use ESig and Pro and day/swing trade the
beans,
> > > wheat and the emini. EOD is just fine for the majority of my
mechanical
> > > trading. The real-time trading keeps me awake. Never, ever, not even
> > once,
> > > have i considered MS as a handicap to appreciating equity. I think
> those
> > > that complain the loudest, trade the least.
> > >
> > > I repeat, even though I've had my own issues, over 14 years of use, MS
> > (EOD
> > > or Pro) is the best bang for the money on the market. Show me
something
> > > better and I'll buy it.
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > >
> > > Steve Karnish, CTA
> > > Cedar Creek Trading
> > > http://www.cedarcreektrading.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Moore" <chartist1951@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:02 AM
> > > Subject: Confused
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've seen a ton of email concerning QuotesPlus and issues with
> > MetaStock.
> > > >
> > > > I'm too new to understand what's going on. About 2 weeks ago, I
> > installed
> > > > 7.2 and hooked up the Reuter's data feed. I don't have any of these
> > > problems
> > > > or at least I am not aware of them.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a MS/Reuters user that knows if I have issues with what
I've
> > > > purchased?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > John
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:45:17 -0400
> From: "neo" <neo1@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: AIQ
>
> John
>
> I tried AIQ for awhile and you are correct in that it combines many
> different things. My impression is that it is like the kitchen appliance
> that does all things but not as well as each item separately. I do not
like
> their charts nearly as much as MS.
>
> Also, I was following a stock in RT waiting to make a trade but the stock
> showed no trading activity. I checked my online broker and it was actively
> being traded. I asked AIQ about this and they said they received their
data
> from a few ECNs and not the majors.
>
> Although MS does not have all the features of AIQ, what it does have is
> superior to anything else that I have seen.
>
> neo
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:47:31 +0100
> From: "John R" <jrdrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: TEMA Function
>
> It's a Triple Exponentially Smoothed Average by Patrick Mulloy. Like EMA
but
> with reduced lag. Documented in MS manual p513.
>
> John
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr. R.BHANJA" <bhanjar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 9:19 PM
> Subject: TEMA Function
>
>
> Hi !
> Can any body explain what is the "TEMA" indicator. What does it and what
is
> it's formula?
> Bhanja
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:37:40 +0200
> From: "mj.cava" <mj.cava@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: QP2 Directory limitation -- Janene
>
> C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties.
>
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> John, the discussion is : why cann't not supported data vendors write =
> directly the Metastock 2000 securities/directory format ? (QP, TC2000, =
> CSI, i-Soft, etc.). The last time I hade a look at i-Soft =
> (www.stockwiz.com), they were providing ASCII export and Metastock 255 =
> securities/directory output.
> Alain.
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: John Sellers=20
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:39 PM
> Subject: RE: QP2 Directory limitation -- Janene
>
>
> Please state the format used with SockWiz. Metastock can convert some =
> formats.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of mj.cava
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 3:53 AM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: QP2 Directory limitation -- Janene
>
>
>
> FI
>
> A 5 january 1999 comment from Steve Kalhas, i-Soft (Stockwiz)
>
> " A lot of the StockWiz users want to export data to the Metastock =
> format but Equis refuses to license their library to us because they =
> said, we are competing with them on the data-sales front. Given that our =
> data prices are $9.95 per month and theirs are $30-$70, etc., I think =
> they got a point. "
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Allan Havemose" <havemose@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:22 PM
> Subject: Re: QP2 Directory limitation -- Janene
>
>
> > For an individual it inexpensive. I have the read/write kit and paid
> > something like $250 (maybe less - it's a while ago).
> >=20
> > Allan
> >=20
> > --- Lionel Issen <lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Maybe Equis is charging too much for this kit. Does anyone know?
> > > Lionel Issen
> > > lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > > From: "Allan Havemose" <havemose@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: QP2 Directory limitation -- Janene
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > > The metastock developers kit supports 2000 file directories, so
> > > QP2's
> > > > explanation is not valid. Maybe Equis does not want to license =
> the
> > > MSFL
> > > > kit to QP2, since they are a data competitor ?
> > > >=20
> > > > Allan
> > > >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > ---
> > Allan Havemose, Ph.D.
> > havemose@xxxxxxxxxx
> > havemose@xxxxxxxxx
> >=20
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/=20
>
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John, the discussion is : why cann't =
> not supported=20
> data vendors write directly the Metastock 2000 securities/directory =
> format ?=20
> (QP, TC2000, CSI, i-Soft, etc.). The last time I hade a look at i-Soft =
> (<A=20
> href=3D"http://www.stockwiz.com";>www.stockwiz.com</A>), they were =
> providing ASCII=20
> export and Metastock 255 securities/directory output.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Alain.</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Day286@xxxxxxxx href=3D"mailto:ay286@xxxxxxxx";>John =
> Sellers</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> =
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 18, 2001 =
> 12:39 PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: QP2 Directory =
> limitation --=20
> Janene</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D130112308-18052001><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>Please state the format used with SockWiz. Metastock can =
> convert some=20
> formats.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxx=
> om</A>=20
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On Behalf Of</B>=20
> mj.cava<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 18, 2001 3:53 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR><B=
> >Subject:</B>=20
> Re: QP2 Directory limitation -- Janene<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FI</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A 5 january 1999 comment from Steve=20
> Kalhas, i-Soft (Stockwiz)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>" A lot of the StockWiz users want to =
> export data=20
> to the Metastock format but <STRONG>Equis refuses to license their =
> library to=20
> us because they said, we are competing with them on the data-sales=20
> front</STRONG>. Given that our data prices are $9.95 per month and =
> theirs are=20
> $30-$70, etc., I think they got a point. "</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "Allan Havemose" <</FONT><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:havemose@xxxxxxxxx";><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>havemose@xxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: <</FONT><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:22=20
> PM</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: Re: QP2 Directory limitation =
> - --=20
> Janene</FONT></DIV></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT =
> face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>> For an individual it inexpensive. I have the read/write =
> kit and=20
> paid<BR>> something like $250 (maybe less - it's a while =
> ago).<BR>>=20
> <BR>> Allan<BR>> <BR>> --- Lionel Issen <</FONT><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> > Maybe Equis is charging too much for this =
> kit. Does=20
> anyone know?<BR>> > Lionel Issen<BR>> > </FONT><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>> >=20
> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: "Allan Havemose"=20
> <</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:havemose@xxxxxxxxx";><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>havemose@xxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>><BR>> >=20
> To: <</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT =
> face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>><BR>>=20
> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:10 AM<BR>> > Subject: Re: =
> QP2=20
> Directory limitation -- Janene<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> =
> > >=20
> The metastock developers kit supports 2000 file directories, =
> so<BR>> >=20
> QP2's<BR>> > > explanation is not valid. Maybe Equis does not =
> want to=20
> license the<BR>> > MSFL<BR>> > > kit to QP2, since they =
> are a=20
> data competitor ?<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Allan<BR>> =
> > >=20
> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>> ---<BR>> Allan =
> Havemose,=20
> Ph.D.<BR>> </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:havemose@xxxxxxxxxx";><FONT =
> face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>havemose@xxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>>=20
> </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:havemose@xxxxxxxxx";><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>havemose@xxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>> <BR>>=20
> __________________________________________________<BR>> Do You=20
> Yahoo!?<BR>> Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great=20
> prices<BR>> </FONT><A href=3D"http://auctions.yahoo.com/";><FONT =
> face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>http://auctions.yahoo.com/</FONT></A> =
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:33:23 +0100
> From: "John R" <jrdrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: System Tester Equity Line
>
> Bob,
>
> You will need to calculate the Equity curve as an indicator yourself. A
good
> example explanation of this technique was posted by Dave Nadeau on the
> "Metastockusers" list a short while back.
>
> Here is the link
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Metastockusers
>
> (You will need to get a Yahoo id (free) before you can join this list).
>
> John
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Lambert" <lambertb1@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:25 PM
> Subject: System Tester Equity Line
>
>
> > To List & MS Support:
> >
> > Is there any way to gain access to the Equity Line
> > in System Tester, as either an indicator or data
> > field?
> >
> > Let's say I wished to apply a moving average to the
> > Equity Line, and decided I wanted my system
> > to automatically exit,if the Equity Line
> > crossed its moving average.Is it possible to
> > specify such a condition within the System tester
> > Entry/Exit conditions?
> >
> >
> > By the way, I'm referring to MS 7 EOD.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 05:12:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jack Griffin <jack_2231@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AIQ
>
> - --- neo <neo1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Although MS does not have all the features of AIQ,
> > what it does have is
> > superior to anything else that I have seen.
> >
> > neo
> >
> >
>
>
> What about Tradestation? I am curious to know what
> specifically MS can do that Tradestation cannot.
> Thanks.
>
> Jack
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> http://auctions.yahoo.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:31:22 +0100
> From: "John R" <jrdrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Fw: System Tester Equity Line
>
> Bob,
>
> Posting this again as 1st time didn't see it make to list.
>
> John
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John R" <jrdrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:33 PM
> Subject: Re: System Tester Equity Line
>
>
> > Bob,
> >
> > You will need to calculate the Equity curve as an indicator yourself. A
> good
> > example explanation of this technique was posted by Dave Nadeau on the
> > "Metastockusers" list a short while back.
> >
> > Here is the link
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Metastockusers
> >
> > (You will need to get a Yahoo id (free) before you can join this list).
> >
> > John
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Lambert" <lambertb1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:25 PM
> > Subject: System Tester Equity Line
> >
> >
> > > To List & MS Support:
> > >
> > > Is there any way to gain access to the Equity Line
> > > in System Tester, as either an indicator or data
> > > field?
> > >
> > > Let's say I wished to apply a moving average to the
> > > Equity Line, and decided I wanted my system
> > > to automatically exit,if the Equity Line
> > > crossed its moving average.Is it possible to
> > > specify such a condition within the System tester
> > > Entry/Exit conditions?
> > >
> > >
> > > By the way, I'm referring to MS 7 EOD.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 05:25:25 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jack Griffin <jack_2231@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: OT: We all pay for this....
>
> Tried this on 2000 without luck. Wish I had not
> upgraded. This would have been pretty cool.
>
> Jack
>
> - --- "C. Baude" <BAUDECB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > There are many "eggs" in software. This contributes
> > to the file size
> > bloat.
> > =================================
> > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:33:11 -0600, you wrote:
> >
> > > Did you know that there is a flight simulator
> > concealed in Microsoft
> > > Excel 97?
> > >
> > > To access this game use the following sequence of
> > commands (detailed by
> > > Larry Werring in RISKS Digest 19.53 on January 5,
> > 1998):
> > >
> > > * Open Excel 97.
> > > * Open a new worksheet and press the F5 key.
> > > * Type X97:L97 and press the Enter key.
> > > * Press the Tab key.
> > > * Hold Ctrl-Shift and click the Chart Wizard
> > button on the tool bar.
> > > * Once the Easter egg is activated, use the mouse
> > to fly around
> > > - right button for forward, left for reverse.
> > >
> > > If you have DirectX drivers installed, a bizarre
> > landscape appears and
> > > you can "fly" over (or under) the geometric forms
> > by using the arrow
> > > keys on your keyboard. If you look carefully in
> > the virtual distance,
> > > you can find a stone monitor planted in the
> > ground. If you get close
> > > enough, you can see the names of the development
> > team scrolling by.
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> http://auctions.yahoo.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:21:00 -0500
> From: "Irv" <madsci@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: TA programs' calculation accuracy
>
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>
> Thanks.
>
> Occasional lurker Irv
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:30:47 -0600
> From: "Dave Nadeau" <dave_nadeau@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: AIQ
>
> Jack,
>
> I run both Metastock Pro V7.03 and Tradestation 4.0 Build 27 for real time
> trading on Windows2000 systems. In a nutshell, if Metastock would make a
> formula language that rivaled Easy Language, and for me at least, added
the
> ability to plot tick bars (e.g. 100 tick bars) and store more than 65,500
> ticks in a file, it would be a "world beater."
>
> As it is, a comparison of TS4 to MSK7.03 is probably not fair, since one
is
> a 16 bit application and at least 8 years older than the other. TS4 is
rock
> solid for stability in Real Time. I've seen testimonials from some on the
> Omega and Realtraders lists that suggests that running 200-300 charts in
> real time with indicators and systems applied is no problem at all. I
don't
> know of anything else that can do this.
>
> The reason that I've stayed away from TS2000i is the stability and bugs it
> has, even with Service Pack 5. TS4 can backtest over only 13000 bars,
which
> is a drawback. TS2K and MSK7 can do this over many more bars, which is
much
> more helpful in backtesting.
>
> Metastock has the clear appeal for me with graphics. It's easy to use and
> studies, systems, and indicators are very clear and straightforward.
>
> The capability of Metastock to scan portfolios is a great advantage that
TS4
> doesn't have. TS2K may be able to do this with RadarScreen, but I don't
> have experience with that product.
>
> So, to sum it all up, I keep both. TS has some features that I need and
so
> does Metastock.
>
> I *dream* of that comprehensive product someday....
>
> Dave Nadeau
> Fort Collins, CO
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jack Griffin
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:13 AM
> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: AIQ
> >
> >
> >
> > --- neo <neo1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Although MS does not have all the features of AIQ,
> > > what it does have is
> > > superior to anything else that I have seen.
> > >
> > > neo
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > What about Tradestation? I am curious to know what
> > specifically MS can do that Tradestation cannot.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> >
>
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:31:45 -0500
> From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: System Tester Equity Line
>
> John:
> I have a Yahoo id. I am able to reach the site. How do I read the
messages?
> How do I find Nadeau's posting?
> Lionel Issen
> lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John R" <jrdrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: System Tester Equity Line
>
>
> > Bob,
> >
> > You will need to calculate the Equity curve as an indicator yourself. A
> good
> > example explanation of this technique was posted by Dave Nadeau on the
> > "Metastockusers" list a short while back.
> >
> > Here is the link
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Metastockusers
> >
> > (You will need to get a Yahoo id (free) before you can join this list).
> >
> > John
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Lambert" <lambertb1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:25 PM
> > Subject: System Tester Equity Line
> >
> >
> > > To List & MS Support:
> > >
> > > Is there any way to gain access to the Equity Line
> > > in System Tester, as either an indicator or data
> > > field?
> > >
> > > Let's say I wished to apply a moving average to the
> > > Equity Line, and decided I wanted my system
> > > to automatically exit,if the Equity Line
> > > crossed its moving average.Is it possible to
> > > specify such a condition within the System tester
> > > Entry/Exit conditions?
> > >
> > >
> > > By the way, I'm referring to MS 7 EOD.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:34:21 -0700
> From: "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AIQ
>
> List,
>
> Dave Nadeau is the "crown jewel" of the MS list. You don't have to scroll
> up or down very far, in your "inbox", to realize that there is a lot of
> worthless "plastic" out there.
>
> Thanks for your contibutions Dave,
>
> Steve Karnish, CTA
> Cedar Creek Trading
> http://www.cedarcreektrading.com
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Nadeau" <dave_nadeau@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:30 AM
> Subject: RE: AIQ
>
>
> > Jack,
> >
> > I run both Metastock Pro V7.03 and Tradestation 4.0 Build 27 for real
time
> > trading on Windows2000 systems. In a nutshell, if Metastock would make
a
> > formula language that rivaled Easy Language, and for me at least, added
> the
> > ability to plot tick bars (e.g. 100 tick bars) and store more than
65,500
> > ticks in a file, it would be a "world beater."
> >
> > As it is, a comparison of TS4 to MSK7.03 is probably not fair, since one
> is
> > a 16 bit application and at least 8 years older than the other. TS4 is
> rock
> > solid for stability in Real Time. I've seen testimonials from some on
the
> > Omega and Realtraders lists that suggests that running 200-300 charts in
> > real time with indicators and systems applied is no problem at all. I
> don't
> > know of anything else that can do this.
> >
> > The reason that I've stayed away from TS2000i is the stability and bugs
it
> > has, even with Service Pack 5. TS4 can backtest over only 13000 bars,
> which
> > is a drawback. TS2K and MSK7 can do this over many more bars, which is
> much
> > more helpful in backtesting.
> >
> > Metastock has the clear appeal for me with graphics. It's easy to use
and
> > studies, systems, and indicators are very clear and straightforward.
> >
> > The capability of Metastock to scan portfolios is a great advantage that
> TS4
> > doesn't have. TS2K may be able to do this with RadarScreen, but I don't
> > have experience with that product.
> >
> > So, to sum it all up, I keep both. TS has some features that I need and
> so
> > does Metastock.
> >
> > I *dream* of that comprehensive product someday....
> >
> > Dave Nadeau
> > Fort Collins, CO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jack Griffin
> > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:13 AM
> > > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: AIQ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- neo <neo1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Although MS does not have all the features of AIQ,
> > > > what it does have is
> > > > superior to anything else that I have seen.
> > > >
> > > > neo
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What about Tradestation? I am curious to know what
> > > specifically MS can do that Tradestation cannot.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> > >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:07:54 +0200
> From: "mj.cava" <mj.cava@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AIQ
>
> Metastock does have a database scanner (The Explorer). TradeStation only
> uses chart (workspace) scanning, ie a very sloooow ersatz.
> The Equis product is a superior chart analysis tool.
> TradeStation is more flexible and powerful when it comes to custom
> programming, trading system development and automation.
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Griffin" <jack_2231@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 2:12 PM
> Subject: Re: AIQ
>
>
> >
> > --- neo <neo1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Although MS does not have all the features of AIQ,
> > > what it does have is
> > > superior to anything else that I have seen.
> > >
> > > neo
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > What about Tradestation? I am curious to know what
> > specifically MS can do that Tradestation cannot.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:01:00 -0400
> From: iamken <iamken@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AIQ
>
> Metastock can easily create composite securities. I have not found a way
to do
> this in TS2000i. The closest I have come is to create an indicator by
> subtracting data2 from data1. But it's not the same as a bar chart.
>
> MSK allows you to create different files from the same symbol in both RTH
and
> 24hr session format. I can display a chart of ESM1 for the day session
and at
> the same time display a chart for the 24hr globex session. I have not
found a
> way to do this in TS. Both sessions can be displayed, but not at the same
time.
>
> In MSPro 7.03, if the realtime feed goes down I can use eSignal to patch
holes
> in the data during the current session once the feed comes back. With TS
I
> can't do that. Well after the market has closes I can however download
intraday
> data HistoryBank. Some TS users us Qfeed/dynastore and are however able
to get
> on deamnd intraday data, but because of reported Quote.com reliability
problems
> I am not going that route. Perhaps there is a way to use eSignal to patch
TS by
> first patching the hole in MSPro with eSignal, then export as ASCII, then
import
> to TS. But I have not explored that and it certainly has more steps
involved
> that I would like.
>
> Maybe there is a way to do those things in TS but not according to TS
support.
> Of course there are certainly things that TS can do that MSK cannot. Dave
> already mentioned some.
>
> Regards.
> - --
>
> Dave Nadeau wrote:
>
> > Jack,
> >
> > I run both Metastock Pro V7.03 and Tradestation 4.0 Build 27 for real
time
> > trading on Windows2000 systems. In a nutshell, if Metastock would make
a
> > formula language that rivaled Easy Language, and for me at least, added
the
> > ability to plot tick bars (e.g. 100 tick bars) and store more than
65,500
> > ticks in a file, it would be a "world beater."
> >
> > As it is, a comparison of TS4 to MSK7.03 is probably not fair, since one
is
> > a 16 bit application and at least 8 years older than the other. TS4 is
rock
> > solid for stability in Real Time. I've seen testimonials from some on
the
> > Omega and Realtraders lists that suggests that running 200-300 charts in
> > real time with indicators and systems applied is no problem at all. I
don't
> > know of anything else that can do this.
> >
> > The reason that I've stayed away from TS2000i is the stability and bugs
it
> > has, even with Service Pack 5. TS4 can backtest over only 13000 bars,
which
> > is a drawback. TS2K and MSK7 can do this over many more bars, which is
much
> > more helpful in backtesting.
> >
> > Metastock has the clear appeal for me with graphics. It's easy to use
and
> > studies, systems, and indicators are very clear and straightforward.
> >
> > The capability of Metastock to scan portfolios is a great advantage that
TS4
> > doesn't have. TS2K may be able to do this with RadarScreen, but I don't
> > have experience with that product.
> >
> > So, to sum it all up, I keep both. TS has some features that I need and
so
> > does Metastock.
> >
> > I *dream* of that comprehensive product someday....
> >
> > Dave Nadeau
> > Fort Collins, CO
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jack Griffin
> > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:13 AM
> > > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: AIQ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- neo <neo1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Although MS does not have all the features of AIQ,
> > > > what it does have is
> > > > superior to anything else that I have seen.
> > > >
> > > > neo
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What about Tradestation? I am curious to know what
> > > specifically MS can do that Tradestation cannot.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> > >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:44:43 -0400
> From: Herman van den Bergen <psytek@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: System Tester Equity Line
>
> At 12:25 PM 5/18/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >To List & MS Support:
> >
> >Is there any way to gain access to the Equity Line
> >in System Tester, as either an indicator or data
> >field?
>
> Hi John, I have been trying to work this out also. The only way, I am told
> by MS Support and private programmers, is by writing a custom DLL. However
> it would not allow you to change your trading formulas on the fly while
> running your system tester - so if you change your rule you would have to
> change your DLL.
>
> I assume you are trying to get Equity feedback to modify your stops and
> trading rules - this is what i am working on. What you can do is write two
> trading systems and run first the one without Equity feedback then
"select"
> the displayed equity curve and run your second trading system which
> accesses the selected equity curve by using the P variable. It is a bit of
> a work around and troublesome as always you have to run two systems to get
> your results.
>
> I can't find the post someone referred to however I have emailed the
person
> who was suppossed to have posted it. If you email me your email address we
> can exchange info on this topic - you can reach me at psytek@xxxxxxxx MS
> support also emailed me a partial solution - I don't like copying others'
> email to the net but can email it to you privately.
>
> I have simulated Equity feedback in Excel and to me it seems to work very
> well. You can perform TA on the equity line, to tell you when to reverse
> your position (without changing rules) or go into cash.
>
> Well, email me if you are interested in exchanging ideas on this project.
> We could even form a small group to work on this.
>
> Happy trading,
> Herman.
>
> >
> >Let's say I wished to apply a moving average to the
> >Equity Line, and decided I wanted my system
> >to automatically exit,if the Equity Line
> >crossed its moving average.Is it possible to
> >specify such a condition within the System tester
> >Entry/Exit conditions?
> >
> >
> >By the way, I'm referring to MS 7 EOD.
> >
> >Bob
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> >http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 19:54:19 +0100
> From: "John R" <jrdrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: System Tester Equity Line
>
> Lionel,
>
> Go to the Yahoo Groups home page:-
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/
>
> Sign in using your Yahoo user id etc.
>
> In the Search for groups box enter "Metastockusers". Should get couple of
> hits - the one you want has 300+ members.
>
> Click the "Join this group" link and follow instructions. Once you've
joined
> you can view posts on-line or have them emailed to you. There is also a
> Search facility so you should have no trouble picking up "Nadeau" posts.
>
> John
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: System Tester Equity Line
>
>
> > John:
> > I have a Yahoo id. I am able to reach the site. How do I read the
> messages?
> > How do I find Nadeau's posting?
> > Lionel Issen
> > lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John R" <jrdrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 5:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: System Tester Equity Line
> >
> >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > You will need to calculate the Equity curve as an indicator yourself.
A
> > good
> > > example explanation of this technique was posted by Dave Nadeau on the
> > > "Metastockusers" list a short while back.
> > >
> > > Here is the link
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Metastockusers
> > >
> > > (You will need to get a Yahoo id (free) before you can join this
list).
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert Lambert" <lambertb1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:25 PM
> > > Subject: System Tester Equity Line
> > >
> > >
> > > > To List & MS Support:
> > > >
> > > > Is there any way to gain access to the Equity Line
> > > > in System Tester, as either an indicator or data
> > > > field?
> > > >
> > > > Let's say I wished to apply a moving average to the
> > > > Equity Line, and decided I wanted my system
> > > > to automatically exit,if the Equity Line
> > > > crossed its moving average.Is it possible to
> > > > specify such a condition within the System tester
> > > > Entry/Exit conditions?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > By the way, I'm referring to MS 7 EOD.
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:10:56 +0100
> From: "David Jennings" <DavidJennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AIQ
>
> I don't want to get involved in a contest where mine is bigger than yours
> except to say that I'm confident I can crash Metastock EOD more easily
than
> I can T2SKi. As a heavy AIQ user, one of the many things in its favour is
it
> stability. Seems to me that if it works well for you then make money out
of
> it.
>
> However, I'm intrigued to know when yo use a composite indicator, aside
from
> in a takeover situation and one trades the imbalance. Could be there's a
> language difference between the US and UK?
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "iamken" <iamken@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: AIQ
>
>
> > Metastock can easily create composite securities. I have not found a
way
> to do
> > this in TS2000i. The closest I have come is to create an indicator by
> > subtracting data2 from data1. But it's not the same as a bar chart.
> >
> > MSK allows you to create different files from the same symbol in both
RTH
> and
> > 24hr session format. I can display a chart of ESM1 for the day session
> and at
> > the same time display a chart for the 24hr globex session. I have not
> found a
> > way to do this in TS. Both sessions can be displayed, but not at the
same
> time.
> >
> > In MSPro 7.03, if the realtime feed goes down I can use eSignal to patch
> holes
> > in the data during the current session once the feed comes back. With
TS
> I
> > can't do that. Well after the market has closes I can however download
> intraday
> > data HistoryBank. Some TS users us Qfeed/dynastore and are however able
> to get
> > on deamnd intraday data, but because of reported Quote.com reliability
> problems
> > I am not going that route. Perhaps there is a way to use eSignal to
patch
> TS by
> > first patching the hole in MSPro with eSignal, then export as ASCII,
then
> import
> > to TS. But I have not explored that and it certainly has more steps
> involved
> > that I would like.
> >
> > Maybe there is a way to do those things in TS but not according to TS
> support.
> > Of course there are certainly things that TS can do that MSK cannot.
Dave
> > already mentioned some.
> >
> > Regards.
> > --
> >
> > Dave Nadeau wrote:
> >
> > > Jack,
> > >
> > > I run both Metastock Pro V7.03 and Tradestation 4.0 Build 27 for real
> time
> > > trading on Windows2000 systems. In a nutshell, if Metastock would
make
> a
> > > formula language that rivaled Easy Language, and for me at least,
added
> the
> > > ability to plot tick bars (e.g. 100 tick bars) and store more than
> 65,500
> > > ticks in a file, it would be a "world beater."
> > >
> > > As it is, a comparison of TS4 to MSK7.03 is probably not fair, since
one
> is
> > > a 16 bit application and at least 8 years older than the other. TS4
is
> rock
> > > solid for stability in Real Time. I've seen testimonials from some on
> the
> > > Omega and Realtraders lists that suggests that running 200-300 charts
in
> > > real time with indicators and systems applied is no problem at all. I
> don't
> > > know of anything else that can do this.
> > >
> > > The reason that I've stayed away from TS2000i is the stability and
bugs
> it
> > > has, even with Service Pack 5. TS4 can backtest over only 13000 bars,
> which
> > > is a drawback. TS2K and MSK7 can do this over many more bars, which
is
> much
> > > more helpful in backtesting.
> > >
> > > Metastock has the clear appeal for me with graphics. It's easy to use
> and
> > > studies, systems, and indicators are very clear and straightforward.
> > >
> > > The capability of Metastock to scan portfolios is a great advantage
that
> TS4
> > > doesn't have. TS2K may be able to do this with RadarScreen, but I
don't
> > > have experience with that product.
> > >
> > > So, to sum it all up, I keep both. TS has some features that I need
and
> so
> > > does Metastock.
> > >
> > > I *dream* of that comprehensive product someday....
> > >
> > > Dave Nadeau
> > > Fort Collins, CO
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jack Griffin
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:13 AM
> > > > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: AIQ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- neo <neo1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Although MS does not have all the features of AIQ,
> > > > > what it does have is
> > > > > superior to anything else that I have seen.
> > > > >
> > > > > neo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What about Tradestation? I am curious to know what
> > > > specifically MS can do that Tradestation cannot.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Jack
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> > > >
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:27:48 -0700
> From: "Owen Davies" <owen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Virus Alert!
>
> If anyone has managed to avoid it thus far, please
> do not open any messages from me sent earlier
> today. Seems I had my first virus in seven or eight
> years on the Net. If it's from me, and there's an
> attachment, it's trouble.
>
> The good news is that the virus does not appear
> to be dangerous, just enormously annoying.
> Further good news is that the current update to
> Norton AntiVirus catches it.
>
> The bad news is that I've already had courteous
> notes from people saying, "Unfortunately, that file
> you sent appears to have become corrupted, and
> it wouldn't open"--pretty much the reply I sent to
> the guy whose machine sent it to me. It looks
> like you are already infected.
>
> I do apologize to anyone who got hit with this.
> I'm pretty careful not to open attachments, but this
> happened to arrive just after I'd asked for info
> that might well have been sent in an attached file.
> It won't happen again.
>
> Owen Davies
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:27:06 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jack Griffin <jack_2231@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: AIQ
>
> - --- iamken <iamken@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Metastock can easily create composite securities. I
> > have not found a way to do
> > this in TS2000i. The closest I have come is to
> > create an indicator by
> > subtracting data2 from data1. But it's not the same
> > as a bar chart.
>
> It is pretty close. You just need to use paint bars
> and you can plot it almost like an artificial symbol.
>
>
>
> >
> > MSK allows you to create different files from the
> > same symbol in both RTH and
> > 24hr session format. I can display a chart of ESM1
> > for the day session and at
> > the same time display a chart for the 24hr globex
> > session. I have not found a
> > way to do this in TS. Both sessions can be
> > displayed, but not at the same time.
>
> This is sort of tricky, but I know a few people who do
> this. You add a new symbol, call it DESM1. (D for
> Day.) Block out night sessions. Then get
> dynastore/dynaloader to feed global server. Only
> problem is that you double ES bandwidth requirements.
>
>
> >
> > In MSPro 7.03, if the realtime feed goes down I can
> > use eSignal to patch holes
> > in the data during the current session once the feed
> > comes back. With TS I
> > can't do that. Well after the market has closes I
> > can however download intraday
> > data HistoryBank. Some TS users us Qfeed/dynastore
> > and are however able to get
> > on deamnd intraday data, but because of reported
> > Quote.com reliability problems
> > I am not going that route. Perhaps there is a way
> > to use eSignal to patch TS by
> > first patching the hole in MSPro with eSignal, then
> > export as ASCII, then import
> > to TS. But I have not explored that and it
> > certainly has more steps involved
> > that I would like.
>
> Agreed. Big flaw of TS 2000i. Was fixed with TS Pro
> however (but since you trade futures, you can't use
> it).
>
> Thanks for all the comments. I had thought MS had
> more things besides ease of use then 2000I, but it
> seems I am missing little (except that portfolio
> searching Dave pointed out).
>
> Jack
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> http://auctions.yahoo.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:23:59 -0700
> From: Daniel Martinez <DanM@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: StockWiz Exporting to MetaStock Format.
>
> StockWiz exports to 255 tickers per folder. They only export to a
> folder called "x:\WIZDATA", no matter which drive you specify. They
> could have done better.
>
> Daniel.
>
> I found this at the StockWiz site:
> http://www.stockwiz.com/export.html
> "Starting with version 3.0 of StockWiz Pro 98, you can also export
> data for selected companies directly to the Metastock/CompuTrac binary
> format. Many technical analysis programs can read that format
> directly. Due to certain limitation of that format, you are only
> prompted for the destination drive and not the destination directory
> when exporting data to the 'Metastock binary' format. Instead the
> destination
> directory is hard coded to WIZDATA."
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Please state the format used with SockWiz. Metastock can convert some
> formats.
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:32:32 -0400
> From: "neo" <neo1@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: System Tester Equity Line
>
> Herman
>
> If a group is formed to work on this, I would be interested.
>
> thanks, neo
> __________________________
>
> I have simulated Equity feedback in Excel and to me it seems to work very
> well. You can perform TA on the equity line, to tell you when to reverse
> your position (without changing rules) or go into cash.
>
> Well, email me if you are interested in exchanging ideas on this project.
> We could even form a small group to work on this.
>
> Happy trading,
> Herman.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:40:03 -0600
> From: "Dave Nadeau" <dave_nadeau@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: System Tester Equity Line
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
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> Herman and Bob,
>
> Below is a posting from the [MetastockUsers] group in Yahoo!Groups. I was
> writing this in response to someone's question/assertion that you couldn't
> test a system across a porfolio of stocks (I do agree that you can't do it
> in the Metastock System Tester...).
>
> Notice the EQTY:= variable that I'm using. You can plot this
separately
> as FmlVar("IndicatorName","EQTY") in any chart and it will give you an
> Equity line. You can also apply a Moving Average to it, or write it into
> the formula itself.
>
> - -------------------------------------------------
> > > --- In Metastockusers@xxxx, "John R" <jrdrp@xxxx> wrote:
>
> > > > K,
>
> > > >
>
> > > > 1. You can use the Metastock Explorer to scan multiple selected
stock
> files
>
> > > > for those which satisfy a specified set of conditions e.g. 10 day
EMA
>
> > > > crossed above 10 day EMA and volume surge in last 2 days.
>
> I beg to differ on this thread. Given certain limitations, there's a lot
of
> systems that can be tested in Metastock, as is--Version 6.52 on up as far
as
> I know....
>
> You can create your system within an indicator, calculate whatever system
> statistics you'd like, and run those in an Exploration.
>
> Here's an example. I will use John's suggestion above. This is a Long only
> system which enters when the Close crosses above the 10 period simple MA
and
> volume is 10 percent greater each time on two successive bars.
>
> ExampleIndicator
>
> DelayOnEntry:=1;
>
> {This corresponds to the Options Button on the System Tester}
>
> Periods:=10;
>
> {Moving Average Length}
>
> EntryPoint:=CLOSE;
>
> {DITTO: This corresponds to the Options Button on the System Tester}
>
> EnterLong:=If(Cum(1)=Periods+3,1,Cross(C,Mov(C,Periods,S)) AND
> (V>1.1*Ref(V,-1) AND Ref(V,-1)>1.1*Ref(V,-2)));
>
> ExitLong:=If(Cum(1)=Periods+4,1,Cross(Mov(C,Periods,S),C));
>
>
POSN:=If(Ref(BarsSince(EnterLong)<=BarsSince(ExitLong),-1*DelayOnEntry),1,0)
> ;
>
> EQTY:=Cum(If(Ref(POSN,-1)=1,EntryPoint-Ref(EntryPoint,-1),0));
>
> TotTrades:=Cum(Cross(POSN,0.5));
>
>
WinTrade:=(ValueWhen(1,Ref(Cross(POSN,0.5),-1),EntryPoint)<ValueWhen(1,Ref(C
> ross(0.5,POSN),-1),EntryPoint));
>
> Winners:=Cum(Cross(WinTrade,0.5));
>
>
>
> Notice that I've put in three different calculations in this "indicator".
I
> have Equity, total trades, and winning trades.
>
> You can use this in an exploration as follows:
>
> Col A: {System Equity}
>
> FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","EQTY");
>
> ColB: {Total Trades}
>
> FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","TotTrades");
>
> ColC: {Winning Trades}
>
> FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","Winners");
>
> ColD: {Winning Percentage}
>
>
FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","Winners")/FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","TotTrades");
>
> ColE: {Equity per Trade}
>
> FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","Eqty")/FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","TotTrades");
>
> You'll get results something like the screen capture below. This was a
test
> over a portfolio of 381 stocks. You can sort the results by any column
you'd
> like, export this to Excel for portfolio summary analysis, etc.
>
> <<<<< Screen capture is in the message that follows>>>>
>
> So, really you can do anything you like. You are limited only by the
Formula
> Language (which remains a limiter in the System Tester as well) and by the
> total number of columns you can use in an Exploration.
>
> I provide the previous system just as an example of what you can do
> currently in Metastock. Mine is V.03 Professional, but any version will
> work.
>
> By the way John.....nice system! Overall, as a portfolio, on my 381 high
> volume stocks, using 1300 bars of EOD data (approx. 4 years), the overall
> results were 263 points net with a winning percentage of 46%. Perhaps you
> should contact Equis with your idea for the next release -- 7.3???
>
> Dave Nadeau
>
> Fort Collins, CO
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Herman van den Bergen
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:45 PM
> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: System Tester Equity Line
> >
> >
> > At 12:25 PM 5/18/01 -0700, you wrote:
> > >To List & MS Support:
> > >
> > >Is there any way to gain access to the Equity Line
> > >in System Tester, as either an indicator or data
> > >field?
> >
> > Hi John, I have been trying to work this out also. The only way, I am
told
> > by MS Support and private programmers, is by writing a custom DLL.
However
> > it would not allow you to change your trading formulas on the fly while
> > running your system tester - so if you change your rule you would have
to
> > change your DLL.
> >
> > I assume you are trying to get Equity feedback to modify your stops and
> > trading rules - this is what i am working on. What you can do is write
two
> > trading systems and run first the one without Equity feedback
> > then "select"
> > the displayed equity curve and run your second trading system which
> > accesses the selected equity curve by using the P variable. It is a bit
of
> > a work around and troublesome as always you have to run two systems to
get
> > your results.
> >
> > I can't find the post someone referred to however I have emailed
> > the person
> > who was suppossed to have posted it. If you email me your email address
we
> > can exchange info on this topic - you can reach me at psytek@xxxxxxxx MS
> > support also emailed me a partial solution - I don't like copying
others'
> > email to the net but can email it to you privately.
> >
> > I have simulated Equity feedback in Excel and to me it seems to work
very
> > well. You can perform TA on the equity line, to tell you when to reverse
> > your position (without changing rules) or go into cash.
> >
> > Well, email me if you are interested in exchanging ideas on this
project.
> > We could even form a small group to work on this.
> >
> > Happy trading,
> > Herman.
> >
> > >
> > >Let's say I wished to apply a moving average to the
> > >Equity Line, and decided I wanted my system
> > >to automatically exit,if the Equity Line
> > >crossed its moving average.Is it possible to
> > >specify such a condition within the System tester
> > >Entry/Exit conditions?
> > >
> > >
> > >By the way, I'm referring to MS 7 EOD.
> > >
> > >Bob
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > >http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> > >
> >
>
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> <P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Courier New">> > --- =
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> K,</FONT></P>
> <P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Courier New">> >=20
> ></FONT></P><FONT face=3D"Courier New"><FONT color=3D#000000>
> <P align=3Dleft>> > > 1. You can use the Metastock Explorer to =
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> <P align=3Dleft>> > > for those which satisfy a specified set =
> of=20
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> <P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Courier New">> > =
> > crossed=20
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> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>I beg to differ on this thread. Given certain =
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> 6.52 on=20
> up as far as I know....</STRONG></P>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>You can create your system within an indicator, =
> calculate=20
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> Exploration.</STRONG></P>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>Here's an example. I will use John's suggestion =
> above.=20
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> color=3D#ff0000=20
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> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>{This corresponds to the Options Button on the =
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>
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> color=3D#ff0000=20
> face=3DArial size=3D2>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>{DITTO: This corresponds to the Options Button =
> on the=20
> System Tester}</STRONG></P></FONT><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>
> <P =
> align=3Dleft><STRONG>EnterLong:=3DIf(Cum(1)=3DPeriods+3,1,Cross(C,Mov(C,P=
> eriods,S))=20
> AND (V>1.1*Ref(V,-1) AND Ref(V,-1)>1.1*Ref(V,-2)));</STRONG></P>
> <P=20
> align=3Dleft><STRONG>ExitLong:=3DIf(Cum(1)=3DPeriods+4,1,Cross(Mov(C,Peri=
> ods,S),C));</STRONG></P>
> <P=20
> align=3Dleft><STRONG>POSN:=3DIf(Ref(BarsSince(EnterLong)<=3DBarsSince(=
> ExitLong),-1*DelayOnEntry),1,0);</STRONG></P>
> <P=20
> align=3Dleft><STRONG>EQTY:=3DCum(If(Ref(POSN,-1)=3D1,EntryPoint-Ref(Entry=
> Point,-1),0));</STRONG></P>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>TotTrades:=3DCum(Cross(POSN,0.5));</STRONG></P>
> <P=20
> align=3Dleft><STRONG>WinTrade:=3D(ValueWhen(1,Ref(Cross(POSN,0.5),-1),Ent=
> ryPoint)<ValueWhen(1,Ref(Cross(0.5,POSN),-1),EntryPoint));</STRONG></P=
> >
> <P =
> align=3Dleft><STRONG>Winners:=3DCum(Cross(WinTrade,0.5));</STRONG></P>
> <P align=3Dleft> </P>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>Notice that I've put in three different =
> calculations in=20
> this "indicator". I have Equity, total trades, and winning =
> trades.</STRONG></P>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>You can use this in an exploration as=20
> follows:</STRONG></P>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>Col A: {System Equity}</STRONG></P>
> <P align=3Dleft>FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","EQTY");</P>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>ColB: {Total Trades}</STRONG></P>
> <P align=3Dleft>FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","TotTrades");</P>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>ColC: {Winning Trades}</STRONG></P>
> <P align=3Dleft>FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","Winners");</P>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>ColD: {Winning Percentage}</STRONG></P>
> <P=20
> align=3Dleft>FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","Winners")/FmlVar("ExampleIndicato=
> r","TotTrades");</P>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>ColE: {Equity per Trade}</STRONG></P>
> <P=20
> align=3Dleft>FmlVar("ExampleIndicator","Eqty")/FmlVar("ExampleIndicator",=
> "TotTrades");</P>
> <P align=3Dleft><STRONG>You'll get results something like the screen =
> capture=20
> below. This was a test over a portfolio of 381 stocks. You can sort the =
> results=20
> by any column you'd like, export this to Excel for portfolio summary =
> analysis,=20
> etc.</STRONG></P></FONT><FONT color=3D#ff0000 face=3D"Century Gothic" =
> size=3D2>
> <P align=3Dleft><<<<<</FONT><B><FONT color=3D#ff0000 =
> size=3D2>=20
> </B></FONT><FONT color=3D#ff0000 face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D2>Screen =
> capture is in=20
> the message that follows>>>></P></FONT><B><FONT =
> color=3D#000080=20
> size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3DArial size=3D2>
> <P align=3Dleft>So, really you can do anything you like. You are limited =
> only by=20
> the Formula Language (which remains a limiter in the System Tester as =
> well) and=20
> by the total number of columns you can use in an Exploration.</P>
> <P align=3Dleft>I provide the previous system just as an example of what =
> you can=20
> do currently in Metastock. Mine is V.03 Professional, but any version =
> will=20
> work.</P>
> <P align=3Dleft>By the way John.....nice system! Overall, as a =
> portfolio, on my=20
> 381 high volume stocks, using 1300 bars of EOD data (approx. 4 years), =
> the=20
> overall results were 263 points net with a winning percentage of 46%. =
> Perhaps=20
> you should contact Equis with your idea for the next release -- =
> 7.3???</P>
> <P align=3Dleft>Dave Nadeau</P>
> <P align=3Dleft>Fort Collins, CO</P></DIR></DIR></B></FONT><BR>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><BR></DIV></FONT>
> <P><FONT size=3D2>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From:=20
> owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>> [</FONT><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT=20
> size=3D2>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT =
> size=3D2>]On Behalf Of=20
> Herman van den Bergen<BR>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:45 =
> PM<BR>> To:=20
> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>> Subject: Re: System Tester Equity=20
> Line<BR>><BR>><BR>> At 12:25 PM 5/18/01 -0700, you =
> wrote:<BR>>=20
> >To List & MS Support:<BR>> ><BR>> >Is there any way =
> to gain=20
> access to the Equity Line<BR>> >in System Tester, as either an =
> indicator=20
> or data<BR>> >field?<BR>><BR>> Hi John, I have been trying =
> to work=20
> this out also. The only way, I am told<BR>> by MS Support and private =
>
> programmers, is by writing a custom DLL. However<BR>> it would not =
> allow you=20
> to change your trading formulas on the fly while<BR>> running your =
> system=20
> tester - so if you change your rule you would have to<BR>> change =
> your=20
> DLL.<BR>><BR>> I assume you are trying to get Equity feedback to =
> modify=20
> your stops and<BR>> trading rules - this is what i am working on. =
> What you=20
> can do is write two<BR>> trading systems and run first the one =
> without Equity=20
> feedback<BR>> then "select"<BR>> the displayed equity curve and =
> run your=20
> second trading system which<BR>> accesses the selected equity curve =
> by using=20
> the P variable. It is a bit of<BR>> a work around and troublesome as =
> always=20
> you have to run two systems to get<BR>> your results.<BR>><BR>> =
> I can't=20
> find the post someone referred to however I have emailed<BR>> the=20
> person<BR>> who was suppossed to have posted it. If you email me your =
> email=20
> address we<BR>> can exchange info on this topic - you can reach me at =
>
> psytek@xxxxxxxx MS<BR>> support also emailed me a partial solution - =
> I don't=20
> like copying others'<BR>> email to the net but can email it to you=20
> privately.<BR>><BR>> I have simulated Equity feedback in Excel and =
> to me=20
> it seems to work very<BR>> well. You can perform TA on the equity =
> line, to=20
> tell you when to reverse<BR>> your position (without changing rules) =
> or go=20
> into cash.<BR>><BR>> Well, email me if you are interested in =
> exchanging=20
> ideas on this project.<BR>> We could even form a small group to work =
> on=20
> this.<BR>><BR>> Happy trading,<BR>> Herman.<BR>><BR>>=20
> ><BR>> >Let's say I wished to apply a moving average to =
> the<BR>>=20
> >Equity Line, and decided I wanted my system<BR>> >to =
> automatically=20
> exit,if the Equity Line<BR>> >crossed its moving average.Is it =
> possible=20
> to<BR>> >specify such a condition within the System tester<BR>> =
>
> >Entry/Exit conditions?<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >By the =
> way, I'm=20
> referring to MS 7 EOD.<BR>> ><BR>> >Bob<BR>> ><BR>> =
>
> >Thanks.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>=20
> >__________________________________________________<BR>> >Do =
> You=20
> Yahoo!?<BR>> >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great=20
> prices<BR>> ></FONT><A href=3D"http://auctions.yahoo.com/"=20
> target=3D_blank><FONT =
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> size=3D2>> ><BR>> </FONT></P></BODY></HTML>
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> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:05:28 -0600
> From: "Dave Nadeau" <dave_nadeau@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: AIQ
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jack Griffin
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:27 PM
> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: AIQ
> >
> >
> > --- iamken <iamken@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Metastock can easily create composite securities. I
> > > have not found a way to do
> > > this in TS2000i. The closest I have come is to
> > > create an indicator by
> > > subtracting data2 from data1. But it's not the same
> > > as a bar chart.
> >
> > It is pretty close. You just need to use paint bars
> > and you can plot it almost like an artificial symbol.
> >
> One of the things I really like about MSK is the ability to create these
> Composite securities on Tick data. In TS4, I am able to plot two price
> series only down to 1 minute of data compression. Why would this matter?
>
> Well, for my systems that I run intraday, the Premium has a *huge* amount
of
> value. Fortunately, QFeed supplies the EPREM.X which is the E-Mini
version
> of what most people know as the $PREM for the large contract.
> Unfortunately, no data vendor that I know of will provide a synthesized
> NASDAQ Mini Premium.
>
> In Metastock, I can create that Composite on a tick basis, and chart it
> accordingly. Ideally, I'd like to plot this as an 8 or 10 tick bar, but
I'm
> adjusting to a visual 1 tick chart. (It's much easier to see divergences
> when the detail is being traced out rather than assessing the extremes of
a
> bar). Again, this is just one person's opinion of something that I have
> learned that works for my style and my timeframe of trading.
>
> Does anyone know if TS2000i can plot multiple tick data on the same chart
as
> data1 and data2? That would be a *HUGE* feature!
>
> The composite that I describe above works only in realtime. Because of
the
> Metastock time format HH:MM:XXX, the arrays will line up properly as ticks
> come in. But once you reload the chart, you'll have a 250 tick per minute
> symbol (NQ) trying to line up with a 8 tick per minute symbol (NDX), so
all
> 8 ticks will correspond to ticks :001 through :008 on the NQ.
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > MSK allows you to create different files from the
> > > same symbol in both RTH and
> > > 24hr session format. I can display a chart of ESM1
> > > for the day session and at
> > > the same time display a chart for the 24hr globex
> > > session. I have not found a
> > > way to do this in TS. Both sessions can be
> > > displayed, but not at the same time.
> >
> > This is sort of tricky, but I know a few people who do
> > this. You add a new symbol, call it DESM1. (D for
> > Day.) Block out night sessions. Then get
> > dynastore/dynaloader to feed global server. Only
> > problem is that you double ES bandwidth requirements.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > In MSPro 7.03, if the realtime feed goes down I can
> > > use eSignal to patch holes
> > > in the data during the current session once the feed
> > > comes back. With TS I
> > > can't do that. Well after the market has closes I
> > > can however download intraday
> > > data HistoryBank. Some TS users us Qfeed/dynastore
> > > and are however able to get
> > > on deamnd intraday data, but because of reported
> > > Quote.com reliability problems
> > > I am not going that route. Perhaps there is a way
> > > to use eSignal to patch TS by
> > > first patching the hole in MSPro with eSignal, then
> > > export as ASCII, then import
> > > to TS. But I have not explored that and it
> > > certainly has more steps involved
> > > that I would like.
> I've been cheating here. I know it's only a matter of time before I get
> caught....
>
> The latest version of Dynastore (V5) has a really neat built in collection
> module. It's very fast, and I'll often collect and paste in my data while
> my system is still collecting quotes. I've heard that this can sometimes
> cause some data corruption--because the Omega Server doesn't really know
how
> to share. I've gotten away with this for several weeks now.
>
> For Metastock in real time, I've been using QCollector2. This has been a
> snap to use, and I can refresh my data without stopping any tick
collection.
> Unlike the Omega server which rewrites the entire day's worth of tick
data,
> which inevitably causes gaps, the Equis Server will just replace the old
> ticks with the new. So, I keep a complete set of data, and I stay
> connected.
>
> - --Dave Nadeau
>
>
> > Agreed. Big flaw of TS 2000i. Was fixed with TS Pro
> > however (but since you trade futures, you can't use
> > it).
> >
> > Thanks for all the comments. I had thought MS had
> > more things besides ease of use then 2000I, but it
> > seems I am missing little (except that portfolio
> > searching Dave pointed out).
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> >
>
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> <P><FONT size=3D2>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From:=20
> owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>> [<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxx=
> stock.com</A>]On=20
> Behalf Of Jack Griffin<BR>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:27 =
> PM<BR>> To:=20
> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>> Subject: Re: AIQ<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
> - ---=20
> iamken <iamken@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:<BR>> > Metastock can =
> easily=20
> create composite securities. I<BR>> > have not found a way =
> to=20
> do<BR>> > this in TS2000i. The closest I have come is =
> to<BR>>=20
> > create an indicator by<BR>> > subtracting data2 from =
> data1. But=20
> it's not the same<BR>> > as a bar chart.<BR>><BR>> It is =
> pretty=20
> close. You just need to use paint bars<BR>> and you can plot it =
> almost=20
> like an artificial symbol.<BR>><BR><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800000=20
> face=3DTahoma>One of the things I really like about MSK is the ability =
> to create=20
> these Composite securities on Tick data. In TS4, I am able to plot =
> two=20
> price series only down to 1 minute of data compression. Why would =
> this=20
> matter?</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800000 =
> face=3DTahoma>Well, for my=20
> systems that I run intraday, the Premium has a *huge* amount of =
> value. =20
> Fortunately, QFeed supplies the EPREM.X which is the E-Mini version =
> of what=20
> most people know as the $PREM for the large contract. =
> Unfortunately, no=20
> data vendor that I know of will provide a synthesized NASDAQ Mini=20
> Premium. </FONT></STRONG></FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800000 face=3DTahoma>In =
> Metastock, I can=20
> create that Composite on a tick basis, and chart it accordingly. =
> Ideally,=20
> I'd like to plot this as an 8 or 10 tick bar, but I'm adjusting to a =
> visual 1=20
> tick chart. (It's much easier to see divergences when the detail =
> is being=20
> traced out rather than assessing the extremes of a bar). Again, =
> this is=20
> just one person's opinion of something that I have learned that works =
> for my=20
> style and my timeframe of trading.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800000 face=3DTahoma>Does =
> anyone know if=20
> TS2000i can plot multiple tick data on the same chart as data1 and=20
> data2? That would be a *HUGE* feature! =
> </FONT></STRONG></FONT></P>
> <P><FONT color=3D#800000 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><STRONG>The composite =
> that I describe=20
> above works only in realtime. Because of the Metastock time format =
>
> HH:MM:XXX, the arrays will line up properly as ticks come in. But =
> once you=20
> reload the chart, you'll have a 250 tick per minute symbol (NQ) trying =
> to line=20
> up with a 8 tick per minute symbol (NDX), so all 8 ticks will correspond =
> to=20
> ticks :001 through :008 on the NQ.</STRONG></FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2><BR>><BR>> ><BR>> > MSK allows you to =
> create=20
> different files from the<BR>> > same symbol in both RTH =
> and<BR>> >=20
> 24hr session format. I can display a chart of ESM1<BR>> > =
> for the=20
> day session and at<BR>> > the same time display a chart for the =
> 24hr=20
> globex<BR>> > session. I have not found a<BR>> > way =
> to do=20
> this in TS. Both sessions can be<BR>> > displayed, but not =
> at the=20
> same time.<BR>><BR>> This is sort of tricky, but I know a few =
> people who=20
> do<BR>> this. You add a new symbol, call it DESM1. (D =
> for<BR>>=20
> Day.) Block out night sessions. Then get<BR>>=20
> dynastore/dynaloader to feed global server. Only<BR>> problem =
> is that=20
> you double ES bandwidth requirements.<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
> ><BR>> >=20
> In MSPro 7.03, if the realtime feed goes down I can<BR>> > use =
> eSignal to=20
> patch holes<BR>> > in the data during the current session once the =
>
> feed<BR>> > comes back. With TS I<BR>> > can't =
> do=20
> that. Well after the market has closes I<BR>> > can however =
> download=20
> intraday<BR>> > data HistoryBank. Some TS users us=20
> Qfeed/dynastore<BR>> > and are however able to get<BR>> > on =
> deamnd=20
> intraday data, but because of reported<BR>> > Quote.com =
> reliability=20
> problems<BR>> > I am not going that route. Perhaps there is =
> a=20
> way<BR>> > to use eSignal to patch TS by<BR>> > first =
> patching the=20
> hole in MSPro with eSignal, then<BR>> > export as ASCII, then=20
> import<BR>> > to TS. But I have not explored that and =
> it<BR>>=20
> > certainly has more steps involved<BR>> > that I would=20
> like.<BR><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800000 face=3DTahoma>I've been cheating =
> here. =20
> I know it's only a matter of time before I get=20
> caught....</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800000 face=3DTahoma>The latest =
> version of=20
> Dynastore (V5) has a really neat built in collection module. It's =
> very=20
> fast, and I'll often collect and paste in my data while my system is =
> still=20
> collecting quotes. I've heard that this can sometimes cause some =
> data=20
> corruption--because the Omega Server doesn't really know how to =
> share. =20
> I've gotten away with this for several weeks =
> now.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P>
> <P><FONT color=3D#800000 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><STRONG>For Metastock in =
> real time,=20
> I've been using QCollector2. This has been a snap to use, and I =
> can=20
> refresh my data without stopping any tick collection. Unlike the =
> Omega=20
> server which rewrites the entire day's worth of tick data, which =
> inevitably=20
> causes gaps, the Equis Server will just replace the old ticks with the=20
> new. So, I keep a complete set of data, and I stay =
> connected. =20
> </STRONG></FONT></P>
> <P><FONT color=3D#800000 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><STRONG>--Dave=20
> Nadeau</STRONG></FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D2><BR>> Agreed. Big flaw of TS 2000i. Was =
> fixed=20
> with TS Pro<BR>> however (but since you trade futures, you can't =
> use<BR>>=20
> it).<BR>><BR>> Thanks for all the comments. I had thought MS =
>
> had<BR>> more things besides ease of use then 2000I, but it<BR>> =
> seems I=20
> am missing little (except that portfolio<BR>> searching Dave pointed=20
> out).<BR>><BR>> Jack<BR>><BR>><BR>>=20
> __________________________________________________<BR>> Do You=20
> Yahoo!?<BR>> Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great=20
> prices<BR>> <A href=3D"http://auctions.yahoo.com/"=20
> target=3D_blank>http://auctions.yahoo.com/</A><BR>> =
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