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> metastock-digest Monday, March 5 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1284
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:09:31 -0500
> From: "W Lake" <wlake@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Subs for Interface changes
>
> Thanks for your email
>
> These are the standard subs that you can put into any workbook and should
> solve your problem. Hack the code as you need it.
>
> Best regards
>
> Walter
>
> ==========================
>
> 'this turns the interface component off
>
> Sub alloff()
> Application.EnableCancelKey = 0
> With ActiveWindow
> .DisplayGridlines = False
> .DisplayHeadings = False
> .DisplayHorizontalScrollBar = False
> .DisplayVerticalScrollBar = False
> .DisplayWorkbookTabs = False
> End With
> End Sub
>
> 'this turns the interface components back on
>
> Sub allon()
> Application.EnableCancelKey = 0
> With ActiveWindow
> .DisplayGridlines = True
> .DisplayHeadings = True
> .DisplayHorizontalScrollBar = True
> .DisplayVerticalScrollBar = True
> .DisplayWorkbookTabs = True
> End With
> End Sub
>
> You can set up a toggle if you want.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:16:28 -0500
> From: "Gitanshu Buch" <onwingsofeagles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: profit calculation for short positions - how?
>
> unless I totally don't understand the query, i'm not sure what role
> expected-profit calcs have in money mgt (i presume mm = risk exposure stop).
>
> mm would be more a function of risk inherent to the specific trade (distance
> from stop-out to entry as a % of portfolio), which is a fn of market price
> action and not profit expectation.
>
> put another way, profit (expected or realized) = return, whereas money mgt
> deals with the "risk" in the r/r equation.
>
> re the open short v/s close short: profit is still the net difference
> between what one got when one sold it for what one paid for when one bought
> it, regardless of when in the transaction sequence the buy/sell occurred. so
> profit would still be a function of "close short" in the denominator.
>
> Gitanshu
>
> From: "rudolf stricker" <lists@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Looking at my last weeks' short positions I wonder, what the "standard
> procedure" to calculate "profit" may be for such cases ...
>
> Following "profit = (money received - money spent) / money spent", I
> would get (neglecting commissions for simplicity) "profit = (open
> short - close short) / close short", which might result in nice values
> near or at expiration ...
>
> But should I include this kind of profit calculation into my money
> management (based on past "probability distributions" for wins &
> losses)? - Up to now I use "profit = (open short - close short) / open
> short", which restricts my maximum profit to 100%. Even if this is
> easier to handle, its imo not correct ...
>
> But to include short positions more carefully into my money
> management, I wonder how this can be done in practice?
> To do it consistently, I would have to know a-priori the "close short"
> price to select the best number of contracts at "open short" time ...
> How is this dilemma solved appropriately in practice?
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> mfg rudolf stricker
> | Disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:12:24 -0000
> From: "Dan Harels" <harelsdb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Book on Elliot Wave Theorty
>
> I have found RObert Miner's book "Dynamic Trading" to be a good reference.
> It offers a practical overview of Elliot and describes specific trading
> strategies.
>
> Dan
>
> >From: LPetersen1 <lpetersen1@xxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: Book on Elliot Wave Theorty
> >Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:30:08 -0800
> >
> >Stavros
> >Check your local library for Elliott Wave Principle, Frost and
> >Prechter.('78-98)
> >LAP
> >
> >
> >
> >Stavros Hadjichristofi wrote:
> >
> > > I am interested in buying a bood on Elliot wave theory? I would
> >appreciate if you
> > > let me know of any good book about Elliot.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > Stavros
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:29:37 -0000
> From: "Dan Harels" <harelsdb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Book on Elliot Wave Theorty
>
> This analysis showed up on another mailing list a month or two ago. I
> thought it was interesting and saved it. I am not sure about Elliot Wave
> myself. Fibonacci retracements and expansions seem to work, but, I have
> doubts about wave counts. That may be because they don't work or because I
> am inept.
>
> Again, I found this analysis interesting. It follows without attribution or
> permission. (Don't write anything in an E-mail you wouldn't want your
> mother to see is the lesson here):
>
> Those of you who are beginning or contemplating studying EW you my find my
> experience helpful.
>
> I worked as an analyst using primarily EW for seven years. My job roughly
> ten hours a day was to study EW and apply the counts to various markets.
> During this period I would claim that I developed an above average to
> excellent ability to apply an EW count and alternates to a market within the
> rules laid out in Prechter's book.
>
> In my opinion while these counts did sometimes produce Nostradomus-like
> market 'calls', they were not useful in making trading decisions. They were
> closer to a neat magic trick than a trading tool. The major problem I have
> with EW is who said the original premise is valid in the first place. Mr.
> Elliott made some grandiose claims and offered up an interesting theory that
> makes some sense under the heading of mass behavior. This theory can not be
> tested due to its subjectivity. I must choose between time frames, close
> only or bar charts, continuous, Gann, or individual charts. If I am using a
> bar chart, I must decide what makes a wave. Due to this subjectivity, there
> is no way to test Elliott's original premise that the markets move in five
> and three wave patterns. Nor is there any way to test if the patterns of
> the market must fit into the 13 (I think) different possible patterns laid
> out. So, basically, we have a gentleman making a claim that can not be
> verified or refuted.
>
> Certainly, some moves have ended on five waves, but they have to end on
> something. And a move of more than one wave must end in an odd number by
> definition. A five wave move with and extension can be five, nine,
> thirteen, seventeen etc. waves. Every other odd number. Therefore, half
> the moves must end in a five wave pattern. Even if EW is not valid, I am
> going to be 'correct' with my five wave count 50% of the time. The method
> allows moves to end on three waves with its irregulars or by the larger
> pattern being A-B-C. Therefore, I can end on three or five with and
> extension in any of the waves of either. That covers all the bases.
>
> Undoubtedly, there are those who have claimed to have made money trading the
> EW. I would contend that while they made money (if indeed they did), they
> may not know WHY they made money. EW may only generate random entry
> signals, but they may use strong exit strategies and sound money management.
> By using strong exit techniques and good money management, one can take a
> random entry and make handsome profits. Even if they use EW to make their
> exit decisions, it is not necessarily the EW count that makes those
> strategies strong. Each part of the method needs to be tested
> independently, to show its effect. EW can not be tested in any way.
> Therefore, we can not know if it is or is not valid.
>
> (A good example of someone who makes a ton of money, but does not know why
> is a hypothetical profitable floor trader. Let's say he makes $2 million a
> year using method X. Wow, method X must be great. But the floor trader
> trades 2000 contracts per day 200 days per year. He also has the floor
> advantage of buying at the bid and selling at the offer. The spread is 1
> tic each tic is worth $20, so he makes $10 per contract vs. the value which
> is between the bid and the asked. $10*2000*200=$4,000,000. So, his edge
> over the market is not in method X; it is in the b/a spread.)
>
> Its is my opinion that a beginner should look elsewhere for a trading
> method. If they are completely intent on trying EW, I would suggest that
> they find a mentor who has used EW to successfully make profits in the
> market not to write a book, although those are not necessarily mutually
> exclusive. Furthermore, I would take a hard look at the mentor's profits to
> see if they are being generated by something other than the EW counts.
>
> A note of caution. EW does allow one to make some remarkable market
> predictions whether these occur randomly or not. The method contends that
> it has figured out the secrets not only of the markets but of existence.
> These predictions give one a feeling of omniscience and a surge of power;
> therefore, this method of trading is appealing to those with a narcissistic
> personality style. This personality style is marked by extremely grandiose
> statements, which Mr. Elliott certainly made about his 'discovery'. Mr
> Prechter has exhibited traits of this personality style as well. The narc.
> style puts a lot of its self-worth on the idea of being 'right' and may not
> take opposing views or questions very well. This style is generally not
> conducive to long-term (>10 years) successful trading. If you decide to try
> to study under someone, do not believe the hype.
>
> SB
>
> >From: LPetersen1 <lpetersen1@xxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: Book on Elliot Wave Theorty
> >Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:30:08 -0800
> >
> >Stavros
> >Check your local library for Elliott Wave Principle, Frost and
> >Prechter.('78-98)
> >LAP
> >
> >
> >
> >Stavros Hadjichristofi wrote:
> >
> > > I am interested in buying a bood on Elliot wave theory? I would
> >appreciate if you
> > > let me know of any good book about Elliot.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > Stavros
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 15:47:33 -0600
> From: "Erik C. Olson" <eolson@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Reltime Qote Service
>
> eSignal does not charge for its software. And you can buy an annual
> subscription to the service which really cuts your costs. Reliable
> data, but clunky interface, even with improvements in 6.0. If only
> QCharts could solve the datafeed reliability and data calculations, it
> would be unbeatable. The interface is the active trader's best friend.
>
> Erik
>
> Joe Duffy wrote:
>
> > I only knew Q charts was the cheapest available, Here a breakdown Q
> > Charts $95 + exch feesE signal $195 + exchange fees + software to run
> > itFutureSource or Tradstation $295 for internet feed + exchange fees,
> > but includes softwareCQG $395 for internet feed + exch fees but
> > includes software
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:10:09 -0800
> From: "Rick Lampkin" <rlam3491@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Real Time Quote service
>
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> Has anyone tried the 30 day free trial that PC Quote (Orbit) is =
> offering? Would be interested in your comments.
>
> www.pcquote.com/products/orbit/index.php
>
> Rick=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Has anyone tried the 30 day free =
> trial that PC=20
> Quote (Orbit) is offering? Would be interested in your =
> comments.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
> href=3D"http://www.pcquote.com/products/orbit/index.php";>www.pcquote.com/=
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rick</FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:09:50 -0500
> From: "neo" <neo1@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: To: j seed RE: New Club - hope this is OK
>
> J.
>
> There seemed to be not that great an interest probably because there are
> other MS lists and clubs so I closed it. If there is great interest we could
> try it again.
>
> neo
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of j seed
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:28 PM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: New Club - hope this is OK
>
> Neo,
>
> Is your club still active? Yahoo can't find it.
>
> J.
>
> >From: "neo" <neo1@xxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: New Club - hope this is OK
> >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:42:32 -0500
> >
> >I have been on this list for some time and it is the best that I have been
> >on. I am also a member of several Yahoo! clubs. They have advantages
> >including: all messages are recorded, and individual and group typed &
> >voice
> >chat are available.
> >
> >I do not wish to diminish this list but to add to it. If it is not out of
> >line, consider joining at:
> >
> >http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/metastocktradersclub
> >
> >Thank you
> >
> >neo
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Walter Lake
> >Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:48 PM
> >To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Automate
> >
> >
> >I've used Automate 4.5f Pro for over 6 months. It's worth what ever the
> >price is now.
> >
> >There are several large pdf files and large web pages full of script and
> >suggestions. Definitely a heavy weight program. It's the "standard", i.e.,
> >if you use Excel or Access with VBA use this program. It will maintain your
> >standards of quality.
> >
> >Best regards
> >
> >Walter
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jean-Roland QUASTANA" <jean-roland.quastana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:05 AM
> >Subject: Re: Any software out there that would do my mouse-clicks for me?
> ><-
> >Thanks to everyone on this Valentine's Day!
> >
> >
> >| Ivo,
> >|
> >| Are you sure about the price? I looked unisyn site and found that
> >Automate4
> >| Lite (no scripting) is priced 99.95?
> >| Do you confirm?
> >|
> >| Thanks,
> >|
> >| Jean-Roland
> >| ----- Original Message -----
> >| From: "Ivo Karindi" <ivo@xxxxxxxxx>
> >| To: <prosys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "OmegaList (E-mail)"
> ><omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>;
> >| "Metastock List (E-mail)" <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >| Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:22 PM
> >| Subject: RE: Any software out there that would do my mouse-clicks for me?
> ><-
> >| Thanks to everyone on this Valentine's Day!
> >|
> >|
> >| > AutoMate 4 is free for 30 days. Then some essential features are
> >supposed
> >| > to lock up if you don't buy it for $59.95. In my opinion so far, it is
> >| > worth the money because it saves time (not affiliated etc.). More
> >| > information is on http://www.unisyn.com/automate/.
> >| >
> >| > I uninstalled already everything else besides AutoMate, but I try to
> >| > remember some stuff about the others. In terms of features, I think
> >the
> >| > closest to AutoMate was MacroExpress ($34.95). AIM Keys ($19.99) and
> >EZ
> >| > Macros ($29.95)are rather keystroke/mouse movement record/playback
> >| > utilities, so I figured I could not really do what I intended with
> >those,
> >| or
> >| > at least not very easily. But I suggest you look them up on
> >| > www.tucows.com. All of them have free trial periods and more
> >information
> >| > there. There's also many more programs in this category there.
> >| >
> >| > Ivo
> >| >
> >| >
> >| >
> >| > > -----Original Message-----
> >| > > From: M. Simms [mailto:prosys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >| > > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:29 AM
> >| > > To: ivo@xxxxxxxxx
> >| > > Subject: RE: Any software out there that would do my mouse-clicks for
> >| > > me? <- Thanks to everyone on this Valentine's Day!
> >| > >
> >| > >
> >| > > Wow - thanks for doing that evaluation....
> >| > > I was wondering how each compared.
> >| > > How expense is AutoMate 4 ?
> >| >
> >|
> >
> >
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:42:54 -0800
> From: Ullrich Fischer <uf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Realtime Qote Service
>
> Has anyone tried the new TC2000 realtime datafeed? It seems to be only
> another $50 over their end of day datafeed. TC2000 has excellent end of
> day charts, indicators, and analysis. It would seem to be a real advantage
> to be able to run custom screens based on realtime data. Their end of day
> data is very clean. If the intraday data is as good, it should be a
> winner. The url is www . tc2000 . com (I have to spell it out in this
> rather awkward way because omega list refuses to accept messages with
> anything that has even a faint whiff of h t m l about it). If anyone has
> tried it, I would be very interested to see if their is a DDE interfact
> into Excel as well. -uf
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:46:51 -0800
> From: Ullrich Fischer <uf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Book on Elliot Wave Theorty
>
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> Elliott Wave Principle by Frost and Prechter is the bible on the
> subject. I found it interesting but gave it only a 7 on my 0=useless to
> 9=great rating system for trading related books. The waves do happen and
> the fibonacci considerations do have some weight, but there is too much
> subjective interpretation involved in it all to rely on it for trading
> decisions. It probably does help to take it into consideration, though.
>
> At 08:28 PM 3/2/2001 +0200, you wrote:
> >I am interested in buying a bood on Elliot wave theory? I would
> >appreciate if you
> >let me know of any good book about Elliot.
> >
> >Thank you
> >
> >Stavros
>
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> <html>
> <br>
> <b> Elliott Wave Principle </b>by Frost and Prechter is the
> bible on the subject. I found it interesting but gave it only a 7
> on my 0=useless to 9=great rating system for trading related books.
> The waves do happen and the fibonacci considerations do have some weight,
> but there is too much subjective interpretation involved in it all to
> rely on it for trading decisions. It probably does help to take it
> into consideration, though.<br><br>
> At 08:28 PM 3/2/2001 +0200, you wrote:<br>
> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I am interested in buying a bood on
> Elliot wave theory? I would appreciate if you<br>
> let me know of any good book about Elliot.<br><br>
> Thank you<br><br>
> Stavros</blockquote></html>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:48:36 +0100
> From: MikeSuesserott@xxxxxxxxxxx (MikeSuesserott)
> Subject: AW: Reltime Qote Service
>
> Erik,
>
> things have improved lately. During the last week of February, nearly all
> QCharts servers have been upgraded to Comstock's 384K feed, as compared to
> the old 128K feed they used before. The complaints on the QCharts mailing
> list about connection problems have all but dried up now.
>
> Here are, IMHO, the advantages of QCharts vs. ESignal:
> - - great charting included at no charge, much superior to ESignal
> - - several years of back data at no cost - Esignal has only a few weeks
> - - delayed data for any market, free of charge
> - - no symbol limit
>
> I have tried both, and am happy with QCharts now.
>
> Disclaimer - No connections except an internet connection! <g>
>
> Michael Suesserott
>
> - -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Im Auftrag von Erik C. Olson
> Gesendet: Friday, March 02, 2001 22:48
> An: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: Re: Reltime Qote Service
>
> eSignal does not charge for its software. And you can buy an annual
> subscription to the service which really cuts your costs. Reliable
> data, but clunky interface, even with improvements in 6.0. If only
> QCharts could solve the datafeed reliability and data calculations, it
> would be unbeatable. The interface is the active trader's best friend.
>
> Erik
>
> Joe Duffy wrote:
>
> > I only knew Q charts was the cheapest available, Here a breakdown Q
> > Charts $95 + exch feesE signal $195 + exchange fees + software to run
> > itFutureSource or Tradstation $295 for internet feed + exchange fees,
> > but includes softwareCQG $395 for internet feed + exch fees but
> > includes software
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:21:08 +0800
> From: "Kish" <kish@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Book on Elliot Wave Theorty
>
> Try Dynamic Trading by Robert Miner
> or Trading Chaos by Bill Williams
>
> Kishore
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stavros Hadjichristofi" <stavrosc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 2:28 AM
> Subject: Book on Elliot Wave Theorty
>
> > I am interested in buying a bood on Elliot wave theory? I would
> appreciate if you
> > let me know of any good book about Elliot.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Stavros
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:49:07 -0800
> From: Ullrich Fischer <uf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: http://www.lowrisk.com/rbi-how.htm
>
> Has anyone tried the market timing service described in the above
> subject? Their deal seems to be an unlimited free trial of their email
> service. The catch is that the email is delayed 24 hours until you become
> a paying subscriber so you can't really use their signals to make money
> until you pay for the service but you can check their performance against
> the historical record for as long as you like. Obviously, they could be
> faking their signals with hindsight, but their description of the approach
> seems quite reasonable.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:38:10 -0500
> From: "Michael Robb" <mlrobb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Real Time Quote service
>
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> Orbit seems very limited in technical indicators. www.nextrend.com may =
> have more appeal to the graphic minded trader.
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Rick Lampkin=20
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 5:10 PM
> Subject: Real Time Quote service
>
> Has anyone tried the 30 day free trial that PC Quote (Orbit) is =
> offering? Would be interested in your comments.
>
> www.pcquote.com/products/orbit/index.php
>
> Rick=20
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> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Orbit seems very limited in technical indicators. <A =
>
> href=3D"http://www.nextrend.com";>www.nextrend.com</A> may have more =
> appeal to the=20
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> <A title=3Drlam3491@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx =
> href=3D"mailto:rlam3491@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Rick=20
> Lampkin</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> =
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 02, 2001 =
> 5:10=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Real Time Quote =
> service</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Has anyone tried the 30 day free =
> trial that=20
> PC Quote (Orbit) is offering? Would be interested in your=20
> comments.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
> =
> href=3D"http://www.pcquote.com/products/orbit/index.php";>www.pcquote.com/=
> products/orbit/index.php</A></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>Rick</FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 16:46:59 +1000
> From: PeterG <p_g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: IMPORTANT - Referencing 2 files in the same formula
>
> Richard, you say you can't 'easily' share explorer lists, does that
> mean there is a way, just a little difficult?
>
> Like you I have explorer lists index grouped but I have no idea how to
> back them up. lots of time has been spent getting them there so it
> would be nice to at least save the files that contain the lists.
>
> Cheers
> Ric Janic
>
> >.....Unfortunately due to the proprietary structure of the database
> >files we are unable to easily share these lists.....
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Richard.
> >RICHARD DALE
> >IT PROJECTS MANAGER
> >daytraderHQ Ltd
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:54:48 -0800
> From: "Hong Ji" <invest@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Reltime Qote Service
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
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> Will QCharts and MetaStock work together? I mean, will MetaStock take =
> the quote from QCharts?
>
> Thanks.
> Michael
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Dan=20
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Reltime Qote Service
>
> It seems to get trashed quite regularly on qcharts mailing list for =
> its option montage. Complaints are that they are not reliable, current, =
> or even present as I understand skimming those messages.=20
> Joe Duffy wrote:=20
>
> Q Charts is your most economical bet. ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Rick Lampkin
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 3:15 PM
> Subject: Reltime Qote Service
> Can anyone recommend a good (relatively inexpensive, if that's =
> possible) real time quote service that Offers both stock and Option =
> quotes? Preferably where one can see the stock price the option prices =
> and an intra day chart all on the same screen. Thank You Rick
>
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> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
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> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Will QCharts and MetaStock work together? I mean, =
> will=20
> MetaStock take the quote from QCharts?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Michael</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Ddcash@xxxxxxxxxxxx =
> href=3D"mailto:dcash@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>Dan</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> =
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 01, 2001 =
> 5:10=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Reltime Qote =
> Service</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>It seems to get trashed quite regularly on qcharts =
> mailing list=20
> for its option montage. Complaints are that they are not =
> reliable,=20
> current, or even present as I understand skimming those messages.=20
> <P>Joe Duffy wrote:=20
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">
> <STYLE></STYLE>
> <FONT face=3DArial>Q Charts is your most economical =
> bet.</FONT> -----=20
> Original Message -----=20
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Drlam3491@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> href=3D"mailto:rlam3491@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Rick Lampkin</A></DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A></DIV>=
>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 01, =
> 2001 3:15=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Reltime Qote=20
> Service</DIV> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Can anyone =
> recommend a=20
> good (relatively inexpensive, if that's possible) real time quote =
> service=20
> that Offers both stock and Option quotes? Preferably where one can =
> see the=20
> stock price the option prices and an intra day chart all on the =
> same=20
> screen.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
> size=3D-1>Thank=20
> You</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
> =
> size=3D-1>Rick</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY=
> ></HTML>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:18:08 -0500
> From: "Brian/Louise Garnant" <babakid@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Book on Elliot Wave Theorty
>
> I would heartily agree.
>
> Brian
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Harels" <harelsdb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Book on Elliot Wave Theorty
>
> >
> > I have found RObert Miner's book "Dynamic Trading" to be a good reference.
> > It offers a practical overview of Elliot and describes specific trading
> > strategies.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > >From: LPetersen1 <lpetersen1@xxxxxxxx>
> > >Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: Re: Book on Elliot Wave Theorty
> > >Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:30:08 -0800
> > >
> > >Stavros
> > >Check your local library for Elliott Wave Principle, Frost and
> > >Prechter.('78-98)
> > >LAP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Stavros Hadjichristofi wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am interested in buying a bood on Elliot wave theory? I would
> > >appreciate if you
> > > > let me know of any good book about Elliot.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > >
> > > > Stavros
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:56:02 -0600
> From: "Bud E. Fox I" <mingtao@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: From Fox - 3/2 Nasdaq Mc Clellan Osc. and QQQ Chart...EOM
>
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> - ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0A3D0.89DD9860--
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:46:21 -0800
> From: "David DeFina" <ddefina@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Realtime Qote Service
>
> I have the RT TC2000 service and am happy with it (1 month so far). I only
> do swing trading, not day trading now, but it seems to be reliable and
> accurate. It's nice to have all the TC2000 features with RT data. Haven't
> tried the Excel export yet, if it exists.
>
> ddefina@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Ullrich Fischer
> Sent: Mar 02, 2001 2:43 PM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Realtime Qote Service
>
> Has anyone tried the new TC2000 realtime datafeed? It seems to be only
> another $50 over their end of day datafeed. TC2000 has excellent end of
> day charts, indicators, and analysis. It would seem to be a real advantage
> to be able to run custom screens based on realtime data. Their end of day
> data is very clean. If the intraday data is as good, it should be a
> winner. The url is www . tc2000 . com (I have to spell it out in this
> rather awkward way because omega list refuses to accept messages with
> anything that has even a faint whiff of h t m l about it). If anyone has
> tried it, I would be very interested to see if their is a DDE interfact
> into Excel as well. -uf
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:43:13 -0500
> From: "Brooke" <brookelise@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Realtime Qote Service
>
> Regarding ongoing connection problems with QCharts:
>
> >From QCharts list Friday:
>
> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:44:55 -0500
> From: "Lloyd Lindsay" <lloydl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Unable to Connect all Friday Afternoon.
>
> QCharts, Terra Lycos, Quotecom:
>
> HELP:
> Friday, March 2, right after lunch, QCharts could not connected me to a
> server --- even though it kept trying them all. I couldn't even get the
> login screen to enter my password. Yet Lycos Livecharts was up and tracking
> the commodities I wanted to see in Q Charts.
>
> I called customer service and waited an hour on hold. So I left a message.
> But now at 4:20 pm Eastern Standard Time (New York-Toronto time), I still am
> not connected and have not received a courtesy call back.
>
> I can't trade without my charts. So now I am in a quandary: I can pay
> QCharts their monthly fee + an exchange fee and trade only on those days
> when I can connect or alternatively switch services.
>
> But my problem is this: QCharts are the best charts that I have found for
> my trading and no other company offers similar charts. Unfortunately, NO
> QCharts is unacceptable.
>
> Up till now I found that I could handle the QCharts fee, but not for sitting
> on pins and needles hoping and praying for a connection.
>
> So I'll ask all of you in this discussion group, "Do you have any
> suggestions?"
>
> LLOYD LINDSAY
> Mississauga, Ontario, CANADA
>
> And from Silicon Investor Friday:
>
> To:Chris Cooper who started this subject
> From: M Veit Friday, Mar 2, 2001 6:11 AM
> View Replies (1) | Respond to of 12854
>
> If anyone can help me, I'd surely appreciate it: how do I get Qcharts to
> attempt connection to a different batch of servers upon start-up? My copy is
> only looking for Herndon servers this morning, all of which are refusing to
> connect.
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MikeSuesserott" <MikeSuesserott@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 6:48 PM
> Subject: AW: Reltime Qote Service
>
> > Erik,
> >
> > things have improved lately. During the last week of February, nearly all
> > QCharts servers have been upgraded to Comstock's 384K feed, as compared to
> > the old 128K feed they used before. The complaints on the QCharts mailing
> > list about connection problems have all but dried up now.
> >
> > Here are, IMHO, the advantages of QCharts vs. ESignal:
> > - great charting included at no charge, much superior to ESignal
> > - several years of back data at no cost - Esignal has only a few weeks
> > - delayed data for any market, free of charge
> > - no symbol limit
> >
> > I have tried both, and am happy with QCharts now.
> >
> > Disclaimer - No connections except an internet connection! <g>
> >
> > Michael Suesserott
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Im Auftrag von Erik C. Olson
> > Gesendet: Friday, March 02, 2001 22:48
> > An: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Betreff: Re: Reltime Qote Service
> >
> >
> > eSignal does not charge for its software. And you can buy an annual
> > subscription to the service which really cuts your costs. Reliable
> > data, but clunky interface, even with improvements in 6.0. If only
> > QCharts could solve the datafeed reliability and data calculations, it
> > would be unbeatable. The interface is the active trader's best friend.
> >
> > Erik
> >
> > Joe Duffy wrote:
> >
> > > I only knew Q charts was the cheapest available, Here a breakdown Q
> > > Charts $95 + exch feesE signal $195 + exchange fees + software to run
> > > itFutureSource or Tradstation $295 for internet feed + exchange fees,
> > > but includes softwareCQG $395 for internet feed + exch fees but
> > > includes software
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:14:32 +0100
> From: rudolf stricker <lists@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: profit calculation for short positions - how?
>
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:16:28 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >unless I totally don't understand the query, i'm not sure what role
> >expected-profit calcs have in money mgt (i presume mm = risk exposure stop).
> >
> >mm would be more a function of risk inherent to the specific trade (distance
> >from stop-out to entry as a % of portfolio), which is a fn of market price
> >action and not profit expectation.
> >
> >put another way, profit (expected or realized) = return, whereas money mgt
> >deals with the "risk" in the r/r equation.
>
> To point at my "problem" more precisely, I should switch from profit
> calculation to calculation of the "amount of money to risk" (AOM2R):
>
> My mm calculates the AOM2R, when a OPEN signal shows up in my system.
> (AOM2R calculation is done based on the "probability" distribution of
> wins & losses from past trades of the given system.)
> So, at _open_ time, I need to know the number of contracts, which
> represents this given AOM2R, which is not a problem for long
> positions. For short positions, however, the AOM2R can be calculated
> a-posteriori only, because AOM2R = No of contracts * _close_ short
> price.
>
> So this results in a dilemma for AOM2R calculation (not for profit
> calculation in general) for _short_ positions, and I wonder how this
> is solved by other traders.
>
> To avoid the above dilemma, I use AOM2R = No of contracts * _open_
> price up to now also for short positions, but this is not correct,
> because it results in much too small AOM2R values for successful
> trades, thwarting my mm considerably for short positions.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> mfg rudolf stricker
> | Disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:20:03 -0500
> From: "Hengy" <hengy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Why Optimization Won't Kill My System and Will It Work In The Future?
>
> Is there a reason why you use a points only test? Is this more appropriate
> for futures? If using percentage for a systems test, is there a translation
> for your 2 examples? Thanks in advance.
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dave Nadeau
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:05 AM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Why Optimization Won't Kill My System and Will It Work In The
> Future?
>
> OK, this is a work in process, but I wanted to put these ideas out here for
> comment. I'd love to hear any corrections or additional thoughts on this
> approach:
> ____________________________________________________________
> I've often asked myself this question about over optimizing my systems and
> have avoided trying to find optimal parameters, probably to my system's
> detriment.
>
> I am reading a book, The Encyclopedia of Trading Strategies by Jeffrey Katz
> and Donna McCormick, which provides an excellent treatment of this
> subject and offers and answer to this nagging question.
>
> (Any mathematicians or those better versed in statistics, please feel free
> to chime in orcorrect any misstatements that I might make. I am basically
> talking through something I've just learned...)
>
> By performing a t-test on the resulting set of trading Profit and Losses,
> you can tell what is the likelihood that you have a workable system or just
> one that you happened upon by chance....or have over-fitted with
> optimization.
>
> I will use two different real world examples to demonstrate this in
> Metastock:
>
> Example 1:
>
> I will run two tests over the same data set, a continuous contract of the
> S&P 500 futures, daily bars, from April 1982 to present. I'll start with
> the
> built in Equis: Negative Volume Index w/ Opt system in the System Tester.
> This system runs a total of 20 optimization steps varying the Moving
> Average from 10 to 200 and shows a profitable "Points Only" result of 827
> points (incl slippage & commissions) over the period versus a buy and hold
> profit of 747 points. Looks good!!!
>
> In the Results.... dialogue, I will right click and copy all of my
> individual trades for the in-sample test period, in this case 136 trades.
> These I will
> paste into Excel, then sort and delete the "Out" trading positions, just
> keeping the Longs and Shorts.
> I'll continue my analysis in Excel by finding the mean value of the set of
> Profit and Loss data generated by my trades, cell formula: =AVERAGE
> (X1:X137) for example. I'll also calculate the Standard Deviation, e.g.
> cell formula: =STDEV(X1:X137). Also figure the total number of results
> that
> you have, e.g. cell formula =COUNT(X1:X137).
>
> Now the t-value is just the MEAN divided by the Standard Deviation divided
> by the square root of the number of results, e.g. (MEAN/(STDEV/
> (SQRT(COUNT)))). Higher t-values are better. Using the function
> =TDIST(t-value,COUNT,1) will give you a probability. This t-test is testing
> for a
> statistical difference between two means, in this case, the mean of the P/L
> and zero, or no profits.
> Now, I end up with a probability of 10%, so what??? Well, this tells me
> that there is about a 10% chance that my results or profits were random, or
> just profitable by chance or luck. The system also has about a nine in ten
> chance of continuing to work in the out of sample period or in actual
> trading. But wait, there's more....
>
> Optimization: If I take the extra step and consider the optimization on the
> system, then the results get worse. This optimization consisted of 20
> steps, so I'd take (1-.10)=90% chance of success in the future or out of
> sample data raised to the power of 20, (.90^20)=11% !!! So much for a good
> chance of profits in the future! This is a great example of
> overoptimization.
>
> Example 2:
>
> I'll compare the above system to the Equis: Moving Average Crossovers w/
> Opt. Over the same data with the same commission and slippage
> allowances, the net Points Only profit is 1109 versus Buy and Hold of 747
> points. Total trades were 291 for this system. However, this system test
> used 60 optimization steps to arrive at this improved result...3 times as
> many as Example 1.
>
> The results in this analysis yield a t-statistic of 2.64. The probability
> of success as calculated above is 99.5%.
>
> After adjusting this for the 60 optimization steps, the lowered probability
> of success or profits is 92%.
>
> So even though this system has gone through greater optimization, it looks
> like it has a greater probability of holding up in the future.
>
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>
> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:19:35 +0100
> From: MikeSuesserott@xxxxxxxxxxx (MikeSuesserott)
> Subject: AW: Realtime Quote Service
>
> Brooke,
>
> remember we had some forty to fifty people regularly screaming and kicking
> on that list; don't you agree that the complaints have dried up a lot
> lately? The gentleman you quoted seems to be unaware of Larry's startup tool
> and the ping tool.
>
> I can assure you I was connected to QCharts/QFeed that very day, like I am
> every day, with (at times) four simultaneous connections to Quote.com, and,
> by use of the startup tool, had no trouble establishing any of them. I also
> noticed the charts now come up at much greater speed, the way they used to
> in the good ole days.
>
> This does not mean that Quote.com is perfect by any means, and it is true
> that Level2 and options are as yet unreliable. Customer service is
> understaffed to the point of being almost unreachable, but is fortunately
> rarely needed - if you follow the precautions frequently and repeatedly
> posted by Larry and Alex on that mailing list. To me, the advantages
> prevail. To repeat, these are,
>
> - - great charting included at no charge, much superior to ESignal,
> - - several years of back data at no cost - Esignal has only a few weeks,
> - - delayed data for any market, free of charge,
> - - no symbol limit.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Michael Suesserott
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:46:36 -0500
> From: "Michael Robb" <mlrobb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Realtime Quote Service
>
> Did they leave, and take another service? (Just kidding). Apparently
> QCharts has worked best with high speed connections, such as cable speeds,
> etc. Using 56k dialup has been associated with most of the nightmare
> problems. Evidently options are not perfected; but for listed stocks and
> futures it seems as good as any other service for the money, and is wide
> open to developer add ons, such as XChartMM, and RavenQuote (which will
> continually be in development - and has some idiosyncratic inconsistencies
> in the process, per its egoup commentaries)
>
> Nextrend has some chart features that QCom does not have, and is a seperate
> feed, that is as fast as Qcharts. They both use S&P Comstock data. PCQuote
> Orbit may be fast, but is limited in technical indicators. These three are
> about the same price $75 monthly, yearly contract not necessary.
>
> Someone asked if Qcom works with Metastock. There is an e-group list for
> Dynastore that has a $250 product that is said to allow running of Metastock
> 6.52 + Professional real time. Qcollector 2.0 sends selected quotes of any
> time increment to MS 6.52+ at intervals of your choice down to as fast as
> 10" for $75. Anyother software was mentioned here earlier last week that
> advertises a similar effect.
>
> DTN has data for MS, Ensign, and ESignal for around the same price via
> internet, and satellite for $129. And there are others, Linnsoft, LiveWire,
> at a similar price.
>
> TradeSignals might be good enough, but I have never succeeded in getting it
> to start. If you want to wait until data is collected, Medved Quote Tracker
> might help. These last two are free, or close to it.
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MikeSuesserott" <MikeSuesserott@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 12:19 PM
> Subject: AW: Realtime Quote Service
>
> > Brooke,
> >
> > remember we had some forty to fifty people regularly screaming and kicking
> > on that list; don't you agree that the complaints have dried up a lot
> > lately? The gentleman you quoted seems to be unaware of Larry's startup
> tool
> > and the ping tool.
> >
> > I can assure you I was connected to QCharts/QFeed that very day, like I am
> > every day, with (at times) four simultaneous connections to Quote.com,
> and,
> > by use of the startup tool, had no trouble establishing any of them. I
> also
> > noticed the charts now come up at much greater speed, the way they used to
> > in the good ole days.
> >
> > This does not mean that Quote.com is perfect by any means, and it is true
> > that Level2 and options are as yet unreliable. Customer service is
> > understaffed to the point of being almost unreachable, but is fortunately
> > rarely needed - if you follow the precautions frequently and repeatedly
> > posted by Larry and Alex on that mailing list. To me, the advantages
> > prevail. To repeat, these are,
> >
> > - great charting included at no charge, much superior to ESignal,
> > - several years of back data at no cost - Esignal has only a few weeks,
> > - delayed data for any market, free of charge,
> > - no symbol limit.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > Michael Suesserott
> >
> >
>
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>
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