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Re: Artificial Intelligence, expert and neural



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Jeff:
A few years ago I read that the Bankers Trust of  NY was spending a mint on
such things like neural nets, artificial intelligence and chaos systems.
Last year the Deusche Bank bought them out and like many foreign companies
they are very secretive, and wont give an outsider the time of day. So there
is no way of finding out how successful these methods are.While current
daily prices are available on the net,  charts are not.

There was a recent book "The Predictors" about a group in the southwest (New
Mexico?) who were/are successful at this trading in esoteric instruments. My
feeling is that if they were very successful, they'd make someone like
Buffett look like a penny ante player.
Lionel Issen
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Haferman" <haferman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence, expert and neural


>
> http://www.emsl.pnl.gov:2080/proj/neuron/neural/systems/shareware.html
>
> has quite a selection.   Neuroforecaster/GA  is geared specifically
> toward financial applications, and you can download a limited
> version.  The shareware neural net package SNNS probably has the
> best reputation.
>
> But you're going to spend a lot of time training and tuning any
> expert system or neural net.  The results I've seen indicate that
> neural nets are great at learning about past market activity,
> but I haven't seen any convincing results that show that
> they do better than random at predicting future activity.
>
> Jos Carlos Duarte Areia wrote:
> >I'm  looking for this subject, anyone knows the best sites and softwares
(I
> >found any at TASC 2000 page 19, bonus issue)to look for ?
> >Thanks JCarlos
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