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FUBAR is beyond SNAFU.
In polite society SNAFU can be interpreted to mean "situation normal all
fouled up": and FUBAR can be interpreted to mean "fouled up beyond all
recognition". both terms stem from WW2 terminology.
The larger the bureaucracy (public, private, or military) the more likely is
a snafu or fubar likely to occur.
What does either term have to do with this thread?
Lionel Issen
lissen@xxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gilbert" <tradermike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Market Gurus (William Gann)
> Does FUBAR mean anything to the writers of this thread??
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 7:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Market Gurus (William Gann)
>
>
> > John:
> >
> > Of course you are correct, and you have reminded me of some facts of
life.
> >
> > I guess the thought behind my words was that perhaps UPS and Fed Ex
should
> > abandon the small package delivery service. There are companies that are
> > simply not interested in certain kinds of markets, so they raise their
> > prices to discourage potential customers in those markets. UPS and Fed
Ex
> > charges for small shipments are a case in point.
> > Lionel Issen
> > lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jhmtn" <jhmtn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: Market Gurus (William Gann)
> >
> >
> > > Lionel,
> > >
> > > As an ex-employee of one of the companies you mentioned, I feel
> > > knowledgeable enough to reply. One thing the shipping public does
> > > not know is that these 2 behemoths (UPS & FedEx) get only 7 to
> > > 12.5 % of their shipping and delivery revenues from shipping to
> > > individuals. UPS leads FedEx in the shipping to individual market by
> > > about 5% of revenues.
> > >
> > > The true bulk of this shipping profit comes from corporate,
> > > industrial, and governmental bulk shipping contracts. In time of war,
> > > FedEx's planes have even been used by the armed services (as in the
> > > Persian Gulf War).
> > >
> > > For this reason, individual prices from UPS and FedEx will only rise
> > > rather than drop as the profit for the companies is not in individual
> > > service.
> > > It is said that the cost of maintaining individual service is so high
> that
> > > the
> > > founder of FedEx seriously thought about just abandoning that segment
of
> > > the market to UPS several years ago.
> > >
> > > Until you've visited a routing hub of one of these companies and
watched
> > > their routing sort you really can't appreciate the bulk volumes of
this
> > > non-individual cargo.
> > >
> > > In the US for this reason (and given that the Post Office now has
> > web-based
> > > routing information available) the Post Office can handle next day and
> > 2-day
> > > delivery on par with both UPS and FedEx for individuals at a lesser
> price
> >
> > > than
> > > either of the other two.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps! ....................... John
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 2:38 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Market Gurus (William Gann)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Even in the US this is the case. I find that US Postal Service is
> > cheaper
> > > > and almost always faster than UPS or Fed Ex.
> > > > Lionel Issen
> > > > lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bill Irwin" <Bill-Irwin@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 1:31 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Market Gurus (William Gann)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I've found many companies that charge more to courier something
than
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > the courier charges. For shipments into Canada you'll also get
hit
> > with
> > > a
> > > > > brokerage fee, in addition to the GST & PST taxes on the Canadian
> > dollar
> > > > > value. I've seen this brokerage fee be CDN$27 to clear an item
> that's
> > > > > valued at US$30! This has got to be one of the biggest rip-offs
> I've
> > > ever
> > > > > seen because the couriers use a computer to print a customs
> > declaration
> > > > form
> > > > > that states what the goods are and their value. They charge $27
for
> 3
> > > > > minutes (if that) of someone's time. That works out to $540/hour!
> > > > >
> > > > > Whenever I can I get shippers to send by USPS (postal service) and
> > they
> > > > fill
> > > > > out the little green sticker on the box to declare the value and I
> > only
> > > > pay
> > > > > the taxes, but not a brokerage fee. No wonder the couriers can
make
> > so
> > > > much
> > > > > money and grow so large!
> > > > >
> > > > > Out of interest, my son complained loudly to UPS and finally got a
> > > > "one-time
> > > > > only" refund of this $27. Their only justification for this fee
is
> to
> > > > state
> > > > > that they're competitive with other couriers. That just means
they
> > all
> > > > are
> > > > > milking this cash cow!
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of michael
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 6:29 AM
> > > > > > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Market Gurus (William Gann)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not suspicous if it is going International... If you are
> > > > > > suspicous,
> > > > > > you've probably never shipped software internationally by
> > > > > > FedX, DHL, or UPS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of neo
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 1:42 PM
> > > > > > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Market Gurus (William Gann)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>Addendum
> > > > > > I'm very suspicious of any outfit that charges fifty bucks
> > > > > > for shipping and
> > > > > > handling. What are they going to do come to my house and deliver
> it
> > in
> > > > > > person?<<<
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who does this? It is hard to believe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > neo
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
SGT099@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 11:57 AM
> > > > > > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Market Gurus (William Gann)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Addendum
> > > > > > I'm very suspicious of any outfit that charges fifty bucks
> > > > > > for shipping and
> > > > > > handling. What are they going to do come to my house and deliver
> it
> > in
> > > > > > person?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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