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There are some interesting articles here on the site you mentioned
http://www.mesasoftware.com/pub/index.html I believe he explains many
indicators included in MESA plus others and some have ONLY the EASYLanguage
code however.  Did you tried to put this in Metastock already Ton ?

Greetings

Mickey

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of A.J. Maas
> Sent: zondag 16 april 2000 17:42
> To: Metastock-List
> Subject: Re: === MESA
>
>
> Haven't used it.
> I was listed on their Users-List back in 1998, when the
> Instantaneous TL was first mailed.
>
> In an attempt to write the ITL for the use in Metastock, I
> only stumbled (at that time) on
> my inabillity to "get it right" (among other stuff it uses
> the FFT, eg and that's at least
> how I interpreted that mail). The MetaStock problems with FFT
> and my ITL attempt were
> explained "a few mails ago"(000224) and at that time of
> publishing of the ITL-mail, lag of
> time etc. and de-listing from that group did not help either
> to continue with my ITL creation
> attempts. MESA98 also came with dll's that could then be
> called upon by user in the program.
>
> I have only seen a short demo of the program, and found its
> interface very poor(MESA98).
> But the ITL sure is intreging. Moreover, the way John Ehlers
> described it in the mail,
> was super interesting. The way some lister got cracking at it
> in Excel, was informative too.
> One of the fellow User-List subscribers, Don Kraska (S&C i
> believe), at one stage had
> John Ehlers to slightly revise the ITL setup on a minor
> issue. Can't remember if he'd agreed.
>
> I believe there are 2 websites now : mesasoftware.com  and
> mesa-software.com
>
> Regards,
> Ton Maas
> ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.
> Homepage  http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------
> John MESA Ehlers' new Instantanious Trendline Technique's:
> The Hilbert Indicators {good old Hilbert, what's in a name......}
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------
> Hilbert Indicators - Tell You When To Trade
> "Here's one way to control moving average lag, using a
> little-known algorithm
>  called the Hilbert transform to come up with indicators
> telling you when to trade.
>  The Hilbert transform, The SNR indicator and the Measuring
> cycle period.
>  (S&C march2000)".
> http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Archive/03200
> 0/Abstracts_new/Ehlers/Ehlers.html
>
> Hilbert Indicators - Trend Trading (By using the
> Instantaneous trendline)
> "Can the market be modeled as a combination of a trend mode and
>   a cycle mode? Yes, it can.  Using the Hilbert transform,
> The Instantaneous Trendline
>   and The Orthogonal components. (S&C May2000)".
> http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Abstracts_new
> /Ehlers/Ehlers.html
>
> Hilbert Indicators - the Formula's (incl. Instanteneous Trendline)
> -TASC - May2000 Traders Tips
>
> http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/TradersTips/T
> radersTips.html
> -Equis - Hilbert Indicator: Instantaneous Trendline and
> Sinewave Indicators
>  http://www.equis.com/customer/support/formulas/cf00104.html
> -Equis - Prepacked(v6.5+) Hilbert Indicator : Instantaneous
> Trendline and Sinewave Indicators
>  http://www.equis.com/customer/support/files/download/MS65FORM.DTA
>
> =============================================
>
> Van: John Ehlers <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Aan: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Onderwerp: Instantaneous Trendline
> Datum: zondag 25 oktober 1998 23:19
>
> To MESA Users Group:
>    Here is a set of new indicators that you can program
> yourselves.  The
> first of these indicators I call an INSTANTANEOUS TRENDLINE.  It works
> because it completely removes the dominant cycle from a
> smoothing average.
> For the mathematically inclined, the Fourier Transform of a
> rectangular
> window (formed by a simiple average) is a Sin(X)/X distribution.  The
> objective is to place the first null of this distribution
> exactly at the
> dominant cycle.  For the intuitively inclined, what we are
> doing is taking
> a simple average over the full dominant cycle period.  In
> such an average,
> there are as many sample points above the midpoint as below
> the midpoint
> with the result that the sum of all these sample points is zero.
>    OK, so all we have to do to get an Instantaneous Trendline
> is to take a
> simple average whose length is exactly the period of the
> dominant cycle.
> For those of you who have TradeStation and MESA96, you just
> insert the dc
> variable for the length of the simple moving average.  For
> those of you who
> have MetaStock or other toolbox packages, you just have to
> estimate the
> length of the dominant cycle and insert that estimate as your moving
> average period.  Of course, this estimate is fixed across your entire
> screen, but the dominant cycle length can be varying.  So
> watch out for
> that problem.
>    The next indicator is created by taking a moving average
> over half the
> period of a dominant cycle.  In this case, the amplitude of
> the dominant
> cycle is attenuated by exactly 2/PI.  Our objective is to
> restore the full
> amplitude of the cyclic portion.  So we take this latest
> moving average,
> subtract the "Instantaneous Trendline", multiple the
> difference by PI/2
> (1.57 approximately), and then add the Instantaneous
> trendline back.  Since
> the lag of a moving average is about half the moving average
> window length,
> this modified half dominant cycle moving average will still
> lag the realy
> cyclic swing by a quarter cycle.
>     Now, when we look at these two moving averages, we can make two
> assessments.  First, we now solve the age-old problem of what is the
> trendline.  We have create an adaptive trendline.  Secondly,
> we can see the
> cyclic swing relative to this trendline so that we can assess
> the amplitude
> of the cyclic movement.  If this cyclic amplitude is not
> several times that
> average daily bar range, then getting an entry and exit for a
> profitable
> cyclic move becomes a crapshoot.  In other words, the signal
> to noise ratio
> is so low that even though we have identified a good cycle,
> it is not large
> enough to trade profitably without relying on an intraday fill.
>     Good Trading!!!
> John
>
> =============================================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kolade, Adeniyi"
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: donderdag 13 april 2000 15:46
> Subject: === MESA
>
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > Has anyone used MESA by John Ehlers. I mean Mesa software
> and not the MESA
> > indicator in Metastock.
> >
> > I would like to know what your opinions on this software are.
> >
> > Thanks
> > ade Kolade
>
>