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Daryl"
You touched on a subject that I know nothing about.  How do people make
money trading bonds?
Lionel Issen
lissen@xxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Daryl Roberts <darylroberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: Neural Nets


> Has anyone on the list had any experience with the "VantagePoint" system,
> which supposedly does intermarket neural net computations to give signals
> for a trend continuing or losing momentum ahead of a reversal, & gives
> projected trading ranges for the day ahead?  They have an interview of
> Mendelsohn by Murphy, which I haven't seen yet, but suggests
authentication.
> And I was referred to an individual, that I spoke to, who claimed to have
> made $75,000 in his 1st year of using the bond module, stating that he was
> not being paid by the company to endorse it (and although he seemed candid
> enough, I still felt a little skeptical).   They offer a demo screen with
a
> password, so if it doesn't work right from this link, it may be due to
some
> password protected feature; but if anyone does take a look at it, I'd be
> interested in the list's comments.
> http://www.profittaker.com/VantagePointdemo.htm   The price, ironically
> enough given the Jurik satire, is $3,000 per module.
>
> Daryl Roberts
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Lionel Issen
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 9:23 AM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Neural Nets
>
> Ross:
> Mark Jurik is right on in his Snake Oil comments.
> To paraphrase his remarks, "If you had a goose that laid golden eggs,
would
> you sell it?"
> Lionel Issen
> lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ross Kovacs <rossrk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Metastock List <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <jhuck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 10:15 AM
> Subject: Neural Nets
>
>
> > Linda Bradford Raschke has the most appropriate comment on Neural Nets
> that
> > I have seen so far: The big institutions spent tons of money on Ph.D.s
and
> > in trading when Neural Nets were first introduced to trading.  None of
> them
> > were successful.  If you think you can be successful where they haven't
> > been, by all means do it.  Personally, I believe that Neural Nets will
> > eventually be quite valuable in trading.  But no one has found a way
yet.
> I
> > seem to remember Mark Jurik having interesting comments on Neural Nets
and
> > their use in trading at his web site www.jurikres.com .  But I can't
find
> it
> > there now.  Mark occasionally monitors this list.  Mark... if my memory
is
> > correct, could you point some people to the appropriate place?  I found
> > Mark's section on Snake Oil to be especially accurate and amusing.
> >
> >
> > Ross Kovacs
> >
> > rossrk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
>